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Old 23-08-2006, 07:54 PM   #21
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How you know this brudder?
Check and see around with big open eyes lah
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Old 23-08-2006, 07:55 PM   #22
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Check and see around with big open eyes lah
brudder you been in Japan top breeders places checking around?
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Old 23-08-2006, 08:01 PM   #23
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Do you know your car today still run on rubber tyres
Today, you are still keeping fish in water. Why don't you go and catch your own worms, why change to pellet food. That was what the Japanese do a hundred years ago.

You forgot to mention that the percentage of natural rubber used in your tyres have significantly been reduced. That is why with the massive growth of cars, Malaysia rubber industry is suffering a glut.
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Old 23-08-2006, 10:42 PM   #24
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Today, you are still keeping fish in water. Why don't you go and catch your own worms, why change to pellet food. That was what the Japanese do a hundred years ago.

You forgot to mention that the percentage of natural rubber used in your tyres have significantly been reduced. That is why with the massive growth of cars, Malaysia rubber industry is suffering a glut.
Agree with you totally. Good tyres nowadays already using sillica as the substitute for rubber...
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Old 23-08-2006, 11:04 PM   #25
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You can make tyres out of natural or synthetic rubber.

But the humble but nonetheless important condom can only be manufactured by natural rubber.
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Old 23-08-2006, 11:12 PM   #26
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You can make tyres out of natural or synthetic rubber.

But the humble but nonetheless important condom can only be manufactured by natural rubber.
You are wrong there.
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Old 23-08-2006, 11:15 PM   #27
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People say goldfish originates from wild carp and need to be kept outdoor in the pond or stream and maybe in the wild If you believe in them better don't have goldfish as a hobby as you are torturing them But note that goldfish also evolve with our various keeping method and note that goldfish nowadays is much more delicate due to various human manipulation...
Technology is there for us to experiment and use and whether we want to forego that and stick to the old method is our choice. Who can ever predict a once popular typewritter can be obsoleted There are several ways and method to reach the goal, but which is the most efficient and practical we have to learn and find out. If we still believe GW is the only method to have nice goldfish and start renting ponds and spend time travelling to kampong with only seeing your fish once a week, or rotating method, that's the end and you will never come out of this vicious cycle.
The Japs are moving away from GW and the fact is most of top breeders are no more practicing that, so why are still believe only GW can groom good fish?
So the moral of story is let's improve and move on and not stay with the conventional method. As the Guru quote, let's don't fall into "The blind leading the blind trap". People say GW is good and you definitely must use that.
I started off with GW and have a phobia with that. I used to keep my fishes in outdoor cement ponds with GW and hardly see my fishes. One fine day, when I empty my pond, to my horror my precious goldfishes are missing. Till to date, I still don't know my fishes have been stolen, eaten by cat or vanish in thin air. So, how do you enjoy this hobby without even knowing your fishes are still alive. I certainly vote for CW as goldfish keeping is purely a hobby and I have to see them alive and swimming.

Bro, nobody is saying that gw is the only method to keep fish. RL started this thread in the hope to understand more about the pros and cons of CW and GW.

But your experience with GW is certaintly not a good one. However, it does not seem to be a case where your goldfishes suffer as a result of it. It is more of a pest problem and this should be a separate issue. Even when I used to have a tank placed in the garden and running on cw, I had to cover to protect against predator. As long as you are keeping outdoor, this protection is mandatory. I would encourage you to experiment with both types of water still.
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Old 23-08-2006, 11:19 PM   #28
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Bro, nobody is saying that gw is the only method to keep fish. RL started this thread in the hope to understand more about the pros and cons of CW and GW.

But your experience with GW is certaintly not a good one. However, it does not seem to be a case where your goldfishes suffer as a result of it. It is more of a pest problem and this should be a separate issue. Even when I use to have a tank placed in the garden and running on cw, I had to cover to protect against predator. As long as you are keeping outdoor, this protection is mandatory. I would encourage you to experiment with both types of water still.
Why don't we do an experiment together and see the difference between the two.
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Old 23-08-2006, 11:35 PM   #29
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[sigh...why do I keep getting two post when I edit. Sorry for confusion cause.
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Old 23-08-2006, 11:37 PM   #30
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Why don't we do an experiment together and see the difference between the two.
You asked me this before. If got space can always do it. No space how to keep extra fish? Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to siam. In fact, I would love to do this when I have the facilities freed up.

Even if we want to do an experiment, must be able to find nice gf to keep. If not, it is not shiok keeping. Furthermore, to reduce any inconsistency, we must pick fishes from the same batch.
And we each need to have a few pieces in case of casualty.
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