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[toe_toe7]

Originally Posted by Nevin

However, when you came back sg on 17/04, as you know & you should know, I was very busy at that period, I am unable to assist you on the stock viewing since I am already given the permission to my partner that fully in charge with my stocks. Hence, I forward his contact to you and let you guys talk about that, am I right?

Understand that you were busy at that point on 17/04. But your message in whatsapp clearly stated that you just checked and few pairs are available. I interpreted wrongly maybe. Because I thought just checked means you just finished calling him up to check.



You were not really a third party also. Because you were the one that asked me to contact your partner. I also confirmed with you the timing that I was going down. If I have to consider you as a third party, I would not even contact you in the first place. All I asked was to sit down face to face and discuss. But every time I planned, always said "tomorrow". I am also not sure which tomorrow already.

Anyway, I just called your partner. He delayed all the appointments before my trip and asked me to hold during my overseas trip. And now, one of the aro got torn fins at tail due to comm. He simply told me how to exchange like that since aro got injury. Put the blame on me again.

After that, he is suggesting me now, he can exchange with 3 RTGs (1 male, 2 females) which both sides no need to top up. I asked him whether can show me they are really bonded pair or not, he just told me now they are in the tank. So, he said cannot prove but confirmed pair.

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Now, I got 2 options.

1. Get the certs from him since he said he already knows the tag and got the certs. Keep these XBs. I would have to tally with the scanner though.

2. Exchange these 2 XBs with 3 RTGs which he claimed confirmed breeding pair but now, cannot prove that they are pair.

What should I do, bro Nevin.

hi all..
im not trying to add salt to d pain.
but my friends also face an experience with bro Nevin.
i hv a feel that bro Nevin s selling fishes on behalf of others.
bro Nevin shouldnt b doing this.
well, all in all...it would definitely b unfair for all for such a thing to happen.
since it already happened. Lets just forgive n forget.

[Nevin]

Originally Posted by jwhtan

There are discrepancies. Nevin says he neither contacted toe_toe nor his partner. toe_toe list a few instances where there was communication.

SOMEONE IS LYING.

who is it ???

Originally Posted by jwhtan

When u r given a chance to reply and clarify, do so. And defend urself. Pick and choose which part to reply and then be evasive abt other crucial parts will only result in one outcome.

When u choose NOT to reply or be elusive abt it altogether, then dun blame me subsequently.

Dear mod,
Thx for your concern about this case. Actually, none of the party here is trying to lie. Just there may some misunderstanding.

Both Bro toe_toe & me are supportive AF members and try to make AF a good platform for fish keeping hobbies. Hope you can understand.

Originally Posted by toe_toe7

Understand that you were busy at that point on 17/04. But your message in whatsapp clearly stated that you just checked and few pairs are available. I interpreted wrongly maybe. Because I thought just checked means you just finished calling him up to check.



You were not really a third party also. Because you were the one that asked me to contact your partner. I also confirmed with you the timing that I was going down. If I have to consider you as a third party, I would not even contact you in the first place. All I asked was to sit down face to face and discuss. But every time I planned, always said "tomorrow". I am also not sure which tomorrow already.

Anyway, I just called your partner. He delayed all the appointments before my trip and asked me to hold during my overseas trip. And now, one of the aro got torn fins at tail due to comm. He simply told me how to exchange like that since aro got injury. Put the blame on me again.

After that, he is suggesting me now, he can exchange with 3 RTGs (1 male, 2 females) which both sides no need to top up. I asked him whether can show me they are really bonded pair or not, he just told me now they are in the tank. So, he said cannot prove but confirmed pair.

===================

Now, I got 2 options.

1. Get the certs from him since he said he already knows the tag and got the certs. Keep these XBs. I would have to tally with the scanner though.

2. Exchange these 2 XBs with 3 RTGs which he claimed confirmed breeding pair but now, cannot prove that they are pair.

What should I do, bro Nevin.

Bro toe_toe, I think we have no point to discuss here till no end. am I right?

I make a free time slot to meet you and assist you to settle the problem since my busy period is over.

Make friend rather than become enemy, am I right bro?

Originally Posted by arojaz

hi all..
im not trying to add salt to d pain.
but my friends also face an experience with bro Nevin.
i hv a feel that bro Nevin s selling fishes on behalf of others.
bro Nevin shouldnt b doing this.
well, all in all...it would definitely b unfair for all for such a thing to happen.
since it already happened. Lets just forgive n forget.

Err, bro arojaz, I am not sure who is ur friend that deal with me and then got the same problem as you mentioned?
How come I am always the one who left behind and then point me as an offender?

[jwhtan]

Originally Posted by Nevin

Dear mod,
Thx for your concern about this case. Actually, none of the party here is trying to lie. Just there may some misunderstanding.

Isn't it clear ? First u said there was no communication. After it was pointed u said yes there is. Not lying ??? I am 3 years old.

I am giving u a chance. Dun take me as a fool. Go and settle the problem. And stop beating around the bush that u r a third party. YOU ARE NOT.
You are very much involved in this whole thing.

Settle the problem or u can forget abt posting at AF ever.

[81civic]

TS,
I feel you should look into this urgently to prevent any more disputes since toe_toe7 had given u the 2 options.

1. Get the certs from him since he said he already knows the tag and got the certs. Keep these XBs. I would have to tally with the scanner though.

2. Exchange these 2 XBs with 3 RTGs which he claimed confirmed breeding pair but now, cannot prove that they are pair.

Honestly speaking, buyer wanted a bonded pair and already paid for a premium, ended up it's not. Honesty your so called partner 'A' shouldnt just grab 2 aros and pass off as bonded pair and sold at a premium price, intergity issue.

Aros belong to your partner and i strongly believe he will know whether is it a bonded pair anot unless ur partner dun even recognize or know his own stocks well enough?

[toe_toe7]

Originally Posted by Nevin

Bro toe_toe, I think we have no point to discuss here till no end. am I right?

I make a free time slot to meet you and assist you to settle the problem since my busy period is over.

Make friend rather than become enemy, am I right bro?

I never like to make enemy..I'm just putting my say here because I want to know if I'm wrong to pursue this matter..now, i'm like loanshark, calling ppl every other day to settle the issue....fish keeping becomes headache like a business.. ..

[chelseaman67]

Originally Posted by toe_toe7

I never like to make enemy..I'm just putting my say here because I want to know if I'm wrong to pursue this matter..now, i'm like loanshark, calling ppl every other day to settle the issue....fish keeping becomes headache like a business.. ..

Haiz....my bro...how come seller don't even know or able to show you the bonded pairs when he says there are a few pairs..Just pick any 2 for you in the pond.

IMHO, if sellers wants to sell their bonded pair, think the right way is to catch the pair up from the pond and place in either a tank or fgt for at least 1 to 2 weeks to confirm they are pair and not asking buyers to go view in the pond when they are not even sure which aro is which cos you only view from the top and just catch 2 aros claiming its a pair and ended up sure fight cos already they lost the luxury of the space in the pond.

[toe_toe7]

me noob mah..where got u so pro....

i thought can exchange if things dun turn out mah..who knows ended up torn fins also want to deduct $$..dun scold me hor..

[thinkytank]

Originally Posted by arojaz

hi all..
im not trying to add salt to d pain.
but my friends also face an experience with bro Nevin.
i hv a feel that bro Nevin s selling fishes on behalf of others.
bro Nevin shouldnt b doing this.
well, all in all...it would definitely b unfair for all for such a thing to happen.
since it already happened. Lets just forgive n forget.

Hi bro,
Hope u don't mind me for saying this.
Since u already mentioned 'Lets just forgive n forget', u 'unintentionaly' bring out the past incident.
Would it be like adding salt to the wound again, don't u agreed?

[chelseaman67]

Originally Posted by toe_toe7

me noob mah..where got u so pro....

i thought can exchange if things dun turn out mah..who knows ended up torn fins also want to deduct $$..dun scold me hor..

Don't worry lah....just hope all goes well and settle soon. Good Luck.