fastest way to pump up rays

[Tay]

Originally Posted by shermie

Don't see nyone saying u're sarcastic or hao lian leh what happened?

Nyway did ur friend manage to find out the reason of death? Will b good to kno so we can learm n hopefully avoid.

No lah, just to avoid misunderstanding la, many pple here read wat they wan to read and not wat I trying to say.

I rather not go into detail how he lost so many rays at 1 go, reason being these r not my rays & he may not be happy abt it. Just take my word this is a true case & many breeders like myself, we r still learning more abt rays & I myself is v willing to hear & try out new ideas if they sound reasonable & wkable.

[shermie]

Originally Posted by Tay

Raw fish food, their source v impt esp frozen. Do they contain preservatives? even wet mkt MP or fishes, some do hv small amt of preservatives. Rays will not die immediately after eatg them, they will only die after long term consumption. So this period of ard 6 months to a yr, r ur rays healthy? Those that stingy on antichlorine, media, water change and food for rays, my advise is ur rays cfm not healthy even they may look healthy

They r just too delicate and fragile, thats y many quit breeding after few yrs cos no $$ to make, (Exclude those hm breeders that hv few rays as they do not really factor in all the cost involved)

Prawns n sotong n mussels I get from wet market.. not frozen. If still got preservatives I really dunno where else to get from le. Any recommendations? Kunning n tamban I fish myself or get from those who fish at jetty daily n sell toman was from supermarket ..on hindsight lucky my rays didn't eat it lol. Silverfish ordered frozen specifically for fish consumption.. should b ideal but my rays dun like.

Water parameters n anti chlorine wise no problems for sure. Water change once every 2 days. Only problem is temp is at 30 degrees... in ur opinion will tat b an issue long term? I'll get a chiller if needed. PH is relatively high at 7.2 to 7.4 but I prefer it that way since tap water is 7.7 to 8. If I drop ph ny further it'll b stressful during WC.

Ny pointers will b appreciated

[shermie]

And any thoughts on feeding with garlic juice? I do that for discus since the allicin acts as a natural dewormer but haven't done for rays as not sure if it's safe

[Shadow7]

Originally Posted by Tay

I had similar observation also, rays when fed fish with bones, they tends to eat lesser compared to MP cos MP water contend r much higher than fish meat. So to counter this problem, I will feed lesser but more frequently to allow smooth digestion. As such, doing a mix is most ideal. Just my personal opinion ok...............

Yes and I have already taken ur advise n feeding more times with mix diet

[sen_jie]

Originally Posted by RELAX

I was feeding mp since I start keep ray,head ,shell tail everything go into adult rays,small pups only mp meat

after many yrs,mp pricing is no more economical,i switch to kunning,since then till today,still on kunning

kunning head,intestines,tail bone,everything as usual goes to adults rays
kunning meat go to pups

your adult ray can eat kunning head?

my 15incher simply swim pass

[sen_jie]

due to work commitment, i can only afford 2x feeding a day.

on weekends when i at home then i try to feed 5x a day.

[RELAX]

Originally Posted by sen_jie

your adult ray can eat kunning head?

my 15incher simply swim pass

nope,at first resist
now greedy

[paddy]

Will 5inch rays take to sotong (cut into thin strips)?

Now on mp diet but think they are getting bored of mp, not as excited nor racing towards food during feeding time.

[bai]

I have feed Mine sotong when they r 5". Cut into small cube which can feed their mouth.

[itchy]

Any thoughts of long term feeding of kunning, mp, etc....these items contains salt? Will our fw rays have problem for long term consumption of all these seafood that contain salts?