Danger rate of Stingray stinging

i've never been stung.

rays will only sting when no other option is present and this situation will only occur out of idiocy from the owner.

on hatcheries, where rays are being handled more frequent, the danger is obviously bigger.

[ray2828]

I have never been stung by a pdr, however been stung by both motoro and sp before.

Is there any diff in the toxin level. I trust Gerome has high pain threshold, given his been medic. However, based on my own experience, the pain usually subside within 4-5 hours and i dont require morphine. I been stung a total of three times and dont consider myself a high pain threshold person.

Seem like black ray more venominous. How about p12 and p14, any difference? anyone who has been struck by diff types of rays, please provide your input.

Wah.. different ray got different amount and type of venom?

...or is it different people react differently.

Originally Posted by ^GeNoME^

i dunnoe wat does it meant by "respecting" the ray but i am doing eveything i can to provide them with a comfortable living environment.. the reason i got stung is bcos i choose to catch the ray is a unconvectional method that day and it is just another freak accident

I guess you have your answer. I usually use net to catch into tub, before lifting the whole thing out. For big rays I just net out direct.

I keep going through nets cos I move them with nets. If entangled with stinger I just cut the net with a long scissors. I won't consider going anywhere within striking distance of a stressed ray.

To me, respecting a ray simply means respecting it's stinger. The only time I pet my rays is when they come to me, never when I go to them.

[^GeNoME^]

Originally Posted by lincolngoh

Wah.. different ray got different amount and type of venom?

...or is it different people react differently.



I guess you have your answer. I usually use net to catch into tub, before lifting the whole thing out. For big rays I just net out direct.

I keep going through nets cos I move them with nets. If entangled with stinger I just cut the net with a long scissors. I won't consider going anywhere within striking distance of a stressed ray.

To me, respecting a ray simply means respecting it's stinger. The only time I pet my rays is when they come to me, never when I go to them.

surely every1 will react differently to the venom and i guess it could be due to the position of the injury and the depth of penetration as well.. if it is a shallow wound.. i doubt it will be as pain as a deep one.. diff species could have diff level of toxin as well just like cobras.. some species are definately more poisonous than the other and it could be due to the age and size of the ray as well.. i believe the level of stress could be a determining factor as more venom might be deposited at the sting to prepare for a attack..

[Panther]

Will wearing the dish-washing gloves help? Any rubber gloves (long gargener gloves?) for that matter?

Assuming they WILL sting, what is the best way of protection for the handler?

Originally Posted by ^GeNoME^

got stung when i was packing ray to my fren place..

got to dip my hand into hot water and trust me.. tat is the only treatment method.. there is no anti venom or medicaion available to neutralise the venom of the ray.. i dip my hand into the hot water for 10hrs b4 the pain subsided.. the hot water is believed to be able to destroy the venom protein and got to be hospitalised bcos they wan to monitor if there is any tissue neucrosis happening

What temperature was the water ? Curious...

sound scary getting sting. i maybe getting rays soon.
is there a safe way of handling rays ?
any "never do this" list for newbies....

[linusfishing]

Originally Posted by Jordi

sound scary getting sting. i maybe getting rays soon.
is there a safe way of handling rays ?
any "never do this" list for newbies....

Actually quite simple.

- When packaging, best to use pail or styrofoam box.
- Just don't go near the tail.
- Never use hands to chase ray in tank.
- Never take eyes off rays when hand in water or when packaging.

[Nic73]

Originally Posted by linusfishing

Actually quite simple.

- When packaging, best to use pail or styrofoam box.
- Just don't go near the tail.
- Never use hands to chase ray in tank.
- Never take eyes off rays when hand in water or when packaging.

Good advise bro. Use to take things for granted...now must be really be more careful when handling my rays

[genki]

Panther, rubber gloves will not help at all. The stinger went through a friend's jean when he was transporting it from Pt A to B.
Use magnetic glass tank cleaners or those with long handle ones for algae cleaning. Ask Marshy abt it!
Linusfishing 4 pts pretty good advice also.
End of the day......"Common sense is the key across the board".