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31-08-2015, 10:54 AM
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Senior Dragon
 
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buttercup your views are needed.
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31-08-2015, 12:01 PM
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Bro your 173 no doubt has the 173 pattern but seriously lacking on the horizontal strips on the dorsal n caudal. One may argue asthey grow they broken lines will join but from wat i see, even young 173s i saw posted in fb finnages stripes r unlike yours.
Too bad i find it hassle to upload photo in forum if not i will share photos for reference. Nonetheless good work in raising ur fries. 
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31-08-2015, 01:20 PM
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Am I right to say this juvenile fits your detail on L173? 
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31-08-2015, 01:46 PM
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Senior Dragon
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hypan best ID when adult imo.
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31-08-2015, 01:52 PM
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Nice one
Glad u understd me. |
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31-08-2015, 01:54 PM
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Senior Dragon
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still no pic of adults???
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31-08-2015, 02:59 PM
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Dragon
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Just to share my own experience in L173 search last time...
serach high n low...end up ... some source said got L173 x L66...so I buy... end up ....dunno what it look like...  maybe more L66some source said got L173...so I buy... end up....some said like L236...so said lower xingu... some source said got L173B...so I buy... end up....some said like L333 with L46 tail...so said dunno wat..... End up....give up on all these search....  clear everything!  morale of the story...this variety not easy to get, and not easy to identify for newbie...and the Market has many "version"...
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31-08-2015, 04:30 PM
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From what I see, the fish is most likely resulted from more than 1 L-number, whether created by you or the seller who sold you the fishes (breeding stocks). Its genes are adulterated with other Hypancistrus genes which can be seen in the picture itself. To an untrained eye, it may pass off as a true L173, heck, I may probably agree many years back. The reason is back then we were still not exposed to that many types of Hypancistrus yet and online references are not that widespread. However, now I can be very certain that there is something else inside. Another point to note is that you are not sure or certain of how a true L173 should look like yourself. This can be seen by the fact that you randomly posted pictures of your juvenile fishes hoping that one of them may fit the description of a true L173. The fact that there are so many variations in the brood further validated what I mentioned earlier. So this may lead to two things: (1) you were sold Hypancistrus labelled as L173 without knowing they are real or not; or (2) you have hybridized this “L173” you bought with another Hypancistrus. Quote:
One thing to note is that L173 “Glaser” aka (L173b) is a totally different Hypancistrus altogether and not to be associated with L173 at all. I apologize for the long post as this is important in my opinion as I do not wish hobbyist to be misled and ended up spending thousands of dollars to finally getting something else.
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31-08-2015, 04:37 PM
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Senior Dragon
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wa very good explanation. would love to see the parents pic so as to allow ID of the authenticity. and for learning purpose on the ID of a correct 173.
but it seems i am small fry nobody wants to reply
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31-08-2015, 04:52 PM
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Dragon
 
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I am curious abt this L number too...
Btw bro yr fries do look nice. |
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