Unveiling Michael's secret to ray breeding

[silane]

Anyone know if introduce ozone will affect benefital bacteria ?

[ray2828]

Originally Posted by silane

Anyone know if introduce ozone will affect benefital bacteria ?

Like what michael said, its no no to directly add ozone into the tank water. Use a freahwater protein skimmer.

By the way i dont use ozone, i simply use the orp meter to tell me when to change water and wash my filter media.

[alanng]

o3 is normally use for marine if i didnt remember wrongly, same thing apply to freshwater? as for the skimmer, does it work same way as marine tank?

[ray2828]

Originally Posted by alanng

o3 is normally use for marine if i didnt remember wrongly, same thing apply to freshwater? as for the skimmer, does it work same way as marine tank?

There are freshwater versions, more commonly known as form fractionators...its bigger and very much more expensive than the typical marine ones.

The basic idea is a separate clamber for mixing ozone and water i.e enable oxidation. Ideally should have a degasiing clamber or process to remove 03 before it returns to the pond.

Originally Posted by marshy

I've been procrastinating getting one... until now!

A bit OT but who's interested in a group order?

[ray2828]

Originally Posted by lincolngoh

A bit OT but who's interested in a group order?

wah if you doing MO, i wanna get another orp meter.

[marshy]

Originally Posted by lincolngoh

A bit OT but who's interested in a group order?

I'm game.
Maybe you can research on brands and pricing then start a seperate thread.

Originally Posted by ray2828

wah if you doing MO, i wanna get another orp meter.

We squeeze Atom for a suggestion on which model to buy first, or do you already have one in mind? Then where and from whom. I no preference.

Then we start one MO in chatterbox ok?

[satan_gal]

Thanks for the great write up.

i remember Michael's ponds. pristine clear water (and the HUGE black rays).

I was amazed at how clean everything was... and did ask how he clean his ponds.

now i get it. part of the secret lies in the chem processes.

but there's this part that disturbs me some what.

2) Introduction of chlorine (so forget that de-chlorinator when changing water)

Would that imply that the importance of clorine removal chems has been overated?
As in we should not overdose on clorine removal chems to have a certain amt of clorine in our waters, in order to increase the ORP?

Sorry if it seemed like a silly question... but it's really really intriguing.

[marshy]

Originally Posted by satan_gal

Would that imply that the importance of clorine removal chems has been overated?
As in we should not overdose on clorine removal chems to have a certain amt of clorine in our waters, in order to increase the ORP?

Sorry if it seemed like a silly question... but it's really really intriguing.

The biggest problem with chlorine is that.... it kills BB.
We can of course dose anti-chlorine during WC at an amount of possible leaving remnents of Chlorine in the water but how much is enough or too much? Very hard to balance this.