The lonely dance of a waiting female - True Green Terror

[BubbleBubble]

Jeff Rapps' F1 Andinoacara stalsbergi... landed here in Singapore only 20 days ago... all of them grew almost an inch since then... males are pushing 3 inches... females close to 2.

Talk about precociousness... this girl cannot be more than 3 month old.

Enjoy, the individual mating dance. Ha... Oh and also Vieja melanurus 'Lake Peten' as tankmates colouring up nicely... same shipment brought in by Stones Aquarium.

YouTube Video

[lyc]

all looking great. You get any syn from last MO? melanurus and syn look so different but now they are all under melanurus.

[BubbleBubble]

Really?... No lah... Same genus yes... species level?... Can't be!

[lyc]

yes they are the same now. Syn is classify as melanurus sometime last quarter 2011

http://cichlidamerique.bb-fr.com/t23...ilum-melanurus

[lyc]

btw do you find any diff bet F1 green terror you have compared to those commonly see in our LFS? I saw some in Aqua empire and the shop beside SAM goldfish with GT that have kok

[johannes]

wow, bro, your melanurus grow so fast and so nice??
i also got 1 piece from stones, mine still small..

[BubbleBubble]

Originally Posted by lyc

yes they are the same now. Syn is classify as melanurus sometime last quarter 2011

http://cichlidamerique.bb-fr.com/t23...ilum-melanurus

From the abstract below, from link you provided, they cannot be so wrong... don't believe everything you read... even from peer-reviewed journals.

See bold, and I can see where u came from. These people need more money to fund their research characterising taxas. They most probably seen some dendograms, speculated an idea, head down to those places, and caught the wrong fish to begin with. Ha... What makes them so sure melas don't occur in places other than Lake Peten?... I did not read the whole paper, conceivable as it was written, their 1st assumption cannot be more careless and the consequences therefore became simply... unreliable.

And yes, i have syns from the same shipment... except the conspicous dark bend... everything about them is different. Ha...

Paraneetroplus synspilus is a Junior Synonym of Paraneetroplus melanurus
(Teleostei: Cichlidae)
CALEB D. MCMAHAN1,2, CHRISTOPHER M. MURRAY2, AARON D. GEHEBER3,2,
CHRISTOPHER D. BOECKMAN2 & KYLE R. PILLER2
1Division of Ichthyology, LSU Museum of Natural Science, Baton Rouge, LA 70803 USA. E-mail: cmcmah2@lsu.edu
2Department of Biological Sciences, Southeastern Louisiana University, Hammond LA 70402 USA
3Department of Zoology, University of Oklahoma, Norman OK 73019 USA
Abstract
The genus Paraneetroplus (Teleostei: Cichlidae) currently consists of 11 species that naturally occur from southern Mexico
south to Panama. Paraneetroplus melanurus (Günther 1862) is found in the Lago de Petén system of Guatemala, and
P. synspilus (Hubbs 1935) in the Río Grijalva-Usumacinta system, and other systems in Mexico, Belize, and Guatemala.
Reported morphological differences between the two nominal species in the literature are vague but center around characteristics
of a dark band that begins at the caudal fin and tapers anteriorly near mid-body. This band is reported as straight
(horizontal) in P. melanurus but ventrally sloped in P. synspilus. Some authors have previously suggested that these two
forms are not distinct. The purpose of this study was to conduct a systematic morphological comparison of P. melanurus
and P. synspilus to further investigate their validity. We examined meristic, morphometric, and geometric morphometric
characters and failed to recover diagnostic differences between these two forms. The characters proposed to separate them
do not allow for their differentiation, and we conclude that P. synspilus is a junior synonym of P. melanurus. A re-description
of P. melanurus is provided on the basis of existing type material and additional material recently collected.
Key words: cichlid, taxonomy, morphology, Central America

[BubbleBubble]

Originally Posted by lyc

btw do you find any diff bet F1 green terror you have compared to those commonly see in our LFS? I saw some in Aqua empire and the shop beside SAM goldfish with GT that have kok

Wait for my spawn lah... gib u a few to play. U can have half the shoal if u have spare tank and take them once free swimming. Ha...

Originally Posted by johannes

wow, bro, your melanurus grow so fast and so nice??
i also got 1 piece from stones, mine still small..

Their colours and textures... pastel red... beautiful.

[lyc]

Originally Posted by BubbleBubble

From the abstract below, from link you provided, they cannot be so wrong... don't believe everything you read... even from peer-reviewed journals.

See bold, and I can see where u came from. These people need more money to fund their research characterising taxas. They most probably seen some dendograms, speculated an idea, head down to those places, and caught the wrong fish to begin with. Ha... What makes them so sure melas don't occur in places other than Lake Peten?... I did not read the whole paper, conceivable as it was written, their 1st assumption cannot be more careless and the consequences therefore became simply... unreliable.

And yes, i have syns from the same shipment... except the conspicous dark bend... everything about them is different. Ha...

I just extracted from 1 forum. Major cichild forums or organizations in the west have already use the new name and request hobbyists to use that too. There is also an official document published but need to pay if want to read the document.

[lyc]

Originally Posted by BubbleBubble

Wait for my spawn lah... gib u a few to play. U can have half the shoal if u have spare tank and take them once free swimming. Ha...

Many thanks in advance!