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Old 28-07-2008, 11:16 PM   #31
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well...different people got their point of view so...
ehh...bro, i don't quite agree with you on this point, a SD is a SD, a HM is a HM.
You wouldnt call a short-fin betta a halfmoon or a crowntail will you?

no offence bro.
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Old 28-07-2008, 11:28 PM   #32
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but if the parent both are HM and the out come if haven reach a HM we call it SDs?mind explain?
Yes, i will call it a SD as long as the criteria for HM is not met.
E.g. No matter how much potential a country soccer team have, until they win the world cup, only then they can call themselves world champion isnt it?

Even if both parents are HM, we wouldnt call all the fries HM.
E.g. both parents full mask, fries come out not full mask, will we still name it full mask?
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Old 28-07-2008, 11:29 PM   #33
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To me,good hm or hmpk have D shape, 180deg no less.
Quality hm or hmpk have D shape BUT with its 1st rays of the caudal is long making a sharp corner before the curve.Then also need to see the overall balance finnage too
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Old 28-07-2008, 11:31 PM   #34
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ehh...bro, i don't quite agree with you on this point, a SD is a SD, a HM is a HM.
You wouldnt call a short-fin betta a halfmoon or a crowntail will you?

no offence bro.
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Yes, i will call it a SD as long as the criteria for HM is not met.
E.g. No matter how much potential a country soccer team have, until they win the world cup, only then they can call themselves world champion isnt it?

Even if both parents are HM, we wouldnt call all the fries HM.
E.g. both parents full mask, fries come out not full mask, will we still name it full mask?
Exactly , i totally agree with you bro yong.
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Old 28-07-2008, 11:56 PM   #35
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Well there must be somebody with a picture of an ideal fish? Or do you mean all of us are shooting/keeping/posting cull quality pics?

Regarding the second part, you have anyone in mind?
refer to IBC standard
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Old 28-07-2008, 11:59 PM   #36
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to me , a good hm = caudal must perfectly D.
first ray and the last ray of its caudal must be the same length.
all the secondary rays branching must be equaly spread. (4 , 8 or 16 )
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Old 29-07-2008, 12:11 AM   #37
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now all hell break loose...., judges coming

come on mr judges, you need to speak up, otherwise those newbie and season hobbyst like me leave in the dark when talking about HM
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Old 29-07-2008, 12:18 AM   #38
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ehh...bro, i don't quite agree with you on this point, a SD is a SD, a HM is a HM.
You wouldnt call a short-fin betta a halfmoon or a crowntail will you?

no offence bro.
hais..wad i mean was..some thing like people out there dunno what is betta so they call it fighting fish...and some people dunno wad is halfmoon call it long tail?i`m trying to refer to this
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Old 29-07-2008, 12:19 AM   #39
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now all hell break loose...., judges coming

come on mr judges, you need to speak up, otherwise those newbie and season hobbyst like me leave in the dark when talking about HM
i oredi share my views on caudal parts.
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Old 29-07-2008, 12:19 AM   #40
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refer to IBC standard
the IBC standard I found was a sketch and some descriptions
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