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Old 31-12-2008, 05:32 PM   #101
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mine is hikari, seldom see this brand le, where you buy ?
I bought from Max for all 3 brand, or Diamond Koi for Sakai.
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Old 31-12-2008, 05:44 PM   #102
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For kohaku, so far not really satisfy with the result, except for that piece shown in the pic, body shape still good.....those "pop eye" bloodline was a disaapointment. The colour not outstanding bec I dun feed colour food.
bro, my own experience with Kohaku is that if we grow them from tosai, they stretch and get orange in colour by the time they reach nisai.

But those nisai that i get can hold their colour much better, and i really suspect the japan mud pond (& their winter) has some sort of a colour sealant effect (like those paint sealant for our cars!) cos all my nisai have good colour even when they turn sansai.

That is why i have moved my focus to nisai as start point for grooming koi. I buy tosai only to keep my frens company & for fun to test my eye.

Nonetheless, tosai is still the more affordable entry point and there are still loads to learn from raising them.
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Old 31-12-2008, 07:06 PM   #103
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bro, my own experience with Kohaku is that if we grow them from tosai, they stretch and get orange in colour by the time they reach nisai.

But those nisai that i get can hold their colour much better, and i really suspect the japan mud pond (& their winter) has some sort of a colour sealant effect (like those paint sealant for our cars!) cos all my nisai have good colour even when they turn sansai.

That is why i have moved my focus to nisai as start point for grooming koi. I buy tosai only to keep my frens company & for fun to test my eye.

Nonetheless, tosai is still the more affordable entry point and there are still loads to learn from raising them.

The stretching is basically grow too fast. If the beni quality is good, it should consolidate back when mature. The mud pond definitely have that effect, and that's why some are using stuff like the Momotaro Clay or the Refresh Powder.

Growing them need skill, so as to maintain their growth rate with the proportional skin quality.

My dis-satisfaction with the kohaku are mainly due to the non-potential jumbo body structure. Skin quality still ok...
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Old 31-12-2008, 08:22 PM   #104
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I bought from Max for all 3 brand, or Diamond Koi for Sakai.
noted & tks bro. will try to go down and take a lot 1st.
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Old 01-01-2009, 12:54 AM   #105
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Growing them need skill, so as to maintain their growth rate with the proportional skin quality.
True, care to share yr secret?

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My dis-satisfaction with the kohaku are mainly due to the non-potential jumbo body structure.
Can u elaborate what u mean by "non-potential jumbo body structure"?
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Old 01-01-2009, 02:06 AM   #106
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Bro...I get someone to fabricate the Acrylic box. The box, I design myself. But the system is a modify copy from the Bekki shower concept. It works similar like using those toyo box or crate.

The 3 chambers is the traditional design.

If u r doing, I would be keen to involve in the brainstorming of the suitable system, but the system may or maynot works...

My pond dun cost much, as I get the wet-work contractor to do it when renovating my house. It is probably the cost of cement and tiles. No need to pay for "design fee".

The filter media are the expensive one!
Hi Bro, thanks for sharing. Cement pond seems to be much cheaper than FGT.
FGT cost is crazy....

BTW, Cement is not water proof. The sealent is mixed w cement. Most prob yr contarctor put but nvr tell u
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Old 01-01-2009, 08:17 AM   #107
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Hi Bro, thanks for sharing. Cement pond seems to be much cheaper than FGT.
FGT cost is crazy....

BTW, Cement is not water proof. The sealent is mixed w cement. Most prob yr contarctor put but nvr tell u

You also want to play koi arh ?
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Old 01-01-2009, 10:26 AM   #108
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What happen if the contractor never mix the sealent, will the pond leak if no sealent mixed with cement?

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Hi Bro, thanks for sharing. Cement pond seems to be much cheaper than FGT.
FGT cost is crazy....

BTW, Cement is not water proof. The sealent is mixed w cement. Most prob yr contarctor put but nvr tell u
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Old 01-01-2009, 10:55 AM   #109
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hi, saw your pond, really impressive, how do you bring the water to the filter? is it pump fed or gravity fed or there's bottom drain?

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The 3 layer of customised "Bekki Shower"

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The shower on Momotaro Bacteria House.
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Old 01-01-2009, 01:46 PM   #110
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True, care to share yr secret?

Terence, I dun have any secret way.
I just monitor the growth rate, skin tone, and adjust the type of feed and amount of feed accordingly. Different people will adopt different ways of grooming.

Can u elaborate what u mean by "non-potential jumbo body structure"?

Some fish, with weak or smaller T-bone (the back should center bone), not high enough body, or very weak tail tube....their chances of growing jumbo will be very minimum.
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