how to improve the strain for begininer

[exotic_idiot]

Originally Posted by lucasrock

Hello. I dont disagree that $2 big bag type can have nice colour.
But TS was asking if buy 80 cts type guppy can delelop into FullRed?
Red colour nia may not be FullRed hor.

Wah 80 cts can get fullred ar???
Where where????

[exotic_idiot]

Originally Posted by detritus

why stress yourself out by trying to breed a full-red with feeders

I agree with you at this point...
Feeders mostly are cull and hybird which have been bred for feeding big fishes only... Their strains already rojak liao...

[lucasrock]

But...if you are looking to create something new....say, your own designer guppy. Then no problems....you can look anywhere....feeder guppy, cheaper LFS or even catch from our Longkangs. Who knows?....maybe there is a mutant gene yet to discovered.

[exotic_idiot]

Originally Posted by lucasrock

But...if you are looking to create something new....say, your own designer guppy. Then no problems....you can look anywhere....feeder guppy, cheaper LFS or even catch from our Longkangs. Who knows?....maybe there is a mutant gene yet to discovered.

Yup, like those ribbon, swallow genes?
Next time call X-guppy"X-men" liao... heheee

Originally Posted by exotic_idiot

Yup, like those ribbon, swallow genes?
Next time call X-guppy"X-men" liao... heheee

ultimately, as with all things, must begin with the end in sight lor...

not say cannot, but must be very clear about what you are trying to achieve.

if the aim is experimentation, then carry on try everything! see a trait that u like, breed, whack, then select the best for further breeding.

but bear in mind also: what are u gonna do with all the culls?

if got a big pond, or an auto-culling machine like an aro, then ok... otherwise, good luck lor... where got space?

[lucasrock]

Originally Posted by exotic_idiot

Yup, like those ribbon, swallow genes?
Next time call X-guppy"X-men" liao... heheee

Well....I have naturally occuring swallows that appear in my Japan blue line.
Naturally occuring because original parents did not have it, and for many generations also dun have. But after 4-5 years, some swallow tails just appear.

[R_F]

I always have the belief that if you know how to keep fish and not an absolute beginner to fish keeping, you can go for the quality fish. Same effort and expense involved in feeding, cleaning, wc etc whether LFS fish or quality, but more satisfaction with quality fish for sure.

The problem isn't so much the low price of the fish, but the fact that a partially red guppy doesn't have the genes to ever produce a full red guppy.

I was reading awhile back about full reds and there seems to be at least 6 different genes that all need to be for red to get a full red. Coloration of different body regions is controlled by different genes.

You can breed guppies that don't have a red head for a lifetime and never get the gene for the red head.

So if you want to start from low priced guppies, select a group that would have all the body red, just not necessarily in the same guppy. Then you can breed and crossbreed and eventually get a full red.

Originally Posted by R_F

I always have the belief that if you know how to keep fish and not an absolute beginner to fish keeping, you can go for the quality fish. Same effort and expense involved in feeding, cleaning, wc etc whether LFS fish or quality, but more satisfaction with quality fish for sure.

Is not so easy like wat u think lo. Try keeping altum?

[R_F]

Originally Posted by lyan

Is not so easy like wat u think lo. Try keeping altum?

Hello...If I wish to keep altum I'll keep altum, thanks.