Blood striken gf

[sgbetta]

I tink treatment is easy. Salt and heater. If it is abit late showing a lot of blood stride then yellow powder, salt and heater. But if u r adding med after every wc I tink is not a good idea. Ur fishes will be immune to those med. does ur tank come into contact wif rain? Indoor or outdoor?

Originally Posted by datura

no , i have a eheim cannister filter and sponge filter and i do 90% water change every week, no harm to the bacterial, this is the best set up so far. the inlet for the eheim i used a eheim pre filter thing, just need to wash this twice a week, and cannister is clean and only need to maintain quarterly.

Good arrangement, bro.
I am using eheim cannister filter too and why I never think of that.

Originally Posted by JapRanchu

Yah it was the only fish that kena. There isn't any redness coming trhu skin at stomach. The scales are reddish and wen also has red specks all over. It laid at the bottom of the Q tank for a few days b4 it went up the lorry Very heart pain...

This symptom looks external and you probably have missed the window of opportunity to treat effectively. For this case, I would do a salt dip of 3% for 5mins immediately if fish is still lively then follow by 0.5% salt at QT with 100% w/c daily (very important). Follow up salt dips can also be done daily if required. Be-Furan, Triple Sulfa, yellow powder and Acrifalvine can also be used but don't mix with any. There are lots of options.

Originally Posted by UnSun

This symptom looks external and you probably have missed the window of opportunity to treat effectively. For this case, I would do a salt dip of 3% for 5mins immediately if fish is still lively then follow by 0.5% salt at QT with 100% w/c daily (very important). Follow up salt dips can also be done daily if required. Be-Furan, Triple Sulfa, yellow powder and Acrifalvine can also be used but don't mix with any. There are lots of options.

"salt dip of 3% for 5mins immediately"

Just asking, are you sure you got this correct? If its external, is 3% salt a good way to cure the fish? If really 3%, the chances of the fish dying is high before even reaching 5mins is super high right?

Originally Posted by nazari

"salt dip of 3% for 5mins immediately"

Just asking, are you sure you got this correct? If its external, is 3% salt a good way to cure the fish? If really 3%, the chances of the fish dying is high before even reaching 5mins is super high right?

Yes, I'm a PP and salt dude. I'll initial dipping @3% if fish is lively. That 5 mins is the max. guideline to avoid gill damage but sometimes fish will start to faint after less then a min anyway. If so I'll poke him to encourage him to swim again. When fish faint again or become motionless I'll remove him immediately and rinse with tank water.
The purpose of salt dipping is to remove as much parasites and bacteria as possible by removing the affected fish's slime coat. This will clear the way for more effective treatment with medicines.
If fish is already half dead then salt dipping like that will surely send him up lorry.
Just to share further as it may sound shocking. I've also successfully done dipping on a batch my 2cm + fry @1.5% b4 too.(suspected heavy fluke infestation) They are able to stand about one min b4 fainting. I did a dip everyday for 3 days and managed to save most of them. So I think if you were to do it carefully, it is very safe, imo even safer than using medications.

Originally Posted by datura

no , i have a eheim cannister filter and sponge filter and i do 90% water change every week, no harm to the bacterial, this is the best set up so far. the inlet for the eheim i used a eheim pre filter thing, just need to wash this twice a week, and cannister is clean and only need to maintain quarterly.

kindly shared how you maintain the PH with 90% w/c every week.
I face problem with more than 70% w/c each time. Now reduce to 50% w/c.

TIA

[datura]

Originally Posted by SKG

kindly shared how you maintain the PH with 90% w/c every week.
I face problem with more than 70% w/c each time. Now reduce to 50% w/c.

TIA

every wednesday water change is 50% and sunday is 100%, fish must be out in holding tank for 100% change , filter and all must be off especially our eheim filter. once tanks are filled you have to add sodium bicarbonate and use ph test pen to check, all water conditioner (use prime, its the best so far without killing our fish esp for 100% water change).

make sure temp and ph only min difference from original, i add the fish in after 10 mins, in this way no stress to our fish.

for 50% water change , no need holding tank, just change and add in water, of course you still add in sodium bicarbonate and prime before adding water.

hope this help,

Gee thanks much for all your valuable inputs...my fishes are outdoor and I'm still trying to grasp the correct approach when it comes to maintaining good water parameter and keeping my fishes happy.

Sad to witness the fish wasting away day after day. I also bought Ocean Free medi for internal bacteria and septicaemia but it was too late.

Am trying to learn from all how best to tackle any similar situation going forward

Originally Posted by UnSun

This symptom looks external and you probably have missed the window of opportunity to treat effectively. For this case, I would do a salt dip of 3% for 5mins immediately if fish is still lively then follow by 0.5% salt at QT with 100% w/c daily (very important). Follow up salt dips can also be done daily if required. Be-Furan, Triple Sulfa, yellow powder and Acrifalvine can also be used but don't mix with any. There are lots of options.

Bro UnSun, what is the max period of 0.5% salt treatment in QT for sick fish.
Until fully recover or ...

Originally Posted by JapRanchu

Gee thanks much for all your valuable inputs...my fishes are outdoor and I'm still trying to grasp the correct approach when it comes to maintaining good water parameter and keeping my fishes happy.

Sad to witness the fish wasting away day after day. I also bought Ocean Free medi for internal bacteria and septicaemia but it was too late.

Am trying to learn from all how best to tackle any similar situation going forward

Hey bro Jap, is your pond exposed to a lot of rain water? If so not very healthy.

Originally Posted by SKG

Bro UnSun, what is the max period of 0.5% salt treatment in QT for sick fish.
Until fully recover or ...

I would say until recovered or showed critical moments has passed, then reduce salt slowly, otherwise one month max. Some people will argue it's best have salt in there all the time.