New P14 pup and ray tank flow rate?
 

Just bought my self a 7 inch female P14 pup.
need tips, she is currently in a 12o Gal tank with my 10 inch Bd trio.
I've read they are more sensitive than Bds?
any tips? I've fed her some freshwater fish yesterday, she ate some fish.

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Today I've fed her squid, freshwater fish and some mp, i noticed she likes to clim the sides of the tank , should i be worried?
also her sting has a airhose on it, should i remove it? or leave it as is?

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Also do rays need strong pump?
currently my rays are in a 120 gal with 75 gal sump. the return pump is a Rio 1100. I've ordered a new 4000L/Hr pump.
Should i replace the old pump and use the stronger one?

doing chin ups is perfectly normal and nothing to worry about. as for sensitivity, just maintain your water parameters as with all rays , they will be fine. 4 rays in a 120 gal is little too much on the long run. do frequent water checks to see signs if bioload is too high. Eating is always a good sign but does not mean that there is nothing wrong so always keep a look out.

thanks bro :) yup, I think i should move some rays to a bigger tank.
by the way will rays do well by themselves?
I'm thinking if i should move the bds to my bigger tank already and just keep the P14 solo in the 120 Gal for growout.

That is a good question, in my experience an adult, strong and healthy ray has no problem doing well SOLO. however in younger fishes i noticed they tend to get lonely and sometimes need friends to compete with for food, However not the case with every ray also. So maybe just leave 1 other piece in there with your P14. i see that rays are social creatures and like to interact with each other.

Thanks bro :) will leave 1 piece with her, or maybe wait for them to grow out of the tank :) also hoping to be able to get her to take
Massivore too


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Leave the air hose as it is.. it will be gone after shedding it sting..

Changing to a stronger pump is strongly recommended.. :)

thanks :) changing to a stronger pump this weekend :)

Hi bro,

nice rays! I do think that rays are sort of community fishes and likes to be in groups but there are some that will just simply nibble on others. I tried seperating my rays and often the one seperated will have a steep drop in appetite.

Just my 2 cents

Cheers and regards

thanks bro :) So its better if they have competition for food :D

She's taking Massivore now :)

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noticed she seems to be growing slower than my Bds?
are p14s slow growers?

congrats bro, growth depends on water and genes.

i just set up a 4 x 2 x 1.5 with a 2.5 x 2 x 1 sump... whole set up approx 400 liters.. i am running a 4500L/h pump

flow seems abit too strong.. how is your current set up doing? do u find the flow to be too strong? i was thinking of down grading to a 2500L/h spare pump i have.

any thoughts on this?

thanks, i stuck to my old slower flowrate pump.
i just added a small wavemaker to increase flowrate in main tank, as I've read slower flow rate in sump gives more time for BB to be in contact with the water?
and the wavemaker increases the flow rate in main tank which will act as mechanical filtration pushing poop to overflow .

i think better to switch to 2500L pump for your tank :)
arent the rays stressed from the current?

As of now it is just working on an overflow pipe, pump input comes in one corner. Doesnt make too much of a current as can see residue on base of tank..

Realised my pump has a valve, i turned it to close half of it. Flow is significantly reduced.

Wonder if this will damage the pump. But guess manufacturers would not put a valve if it would damage.

Yup , i think reduced flow won't damage the pump :) not sure of electricity consumption though :)


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i heard now a days there are many pumps which can be electronically controlled to adjust flow rate etc etc. might invest in those but for the time being, just recycling all my old spare pumps :)

yup those newer pump has button now to control flow rate :)
I have some spare strong pumps now :D . I bought stronger pumps but end up using old ones :) have been buying Aquasynchro inverter pumps . so far my old ones still working.