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Brichardi 23-09-2013 07:42 PM

Taking up Tanganyikan again!
 
Hi guys, I'm back to keeping my favourite fishes >> Tanganyikan cichlids!

A little intro about myself as 99.99% doesn't know me.....
started keeping guppies, mollies, bettas, etc since 40 years ago. Started keeping fishes seriously since 20+ years ago and bought my first Golden arowana then which costs me $1200 as well as custom build my first 5ft X 2ft X 2ft tank at $1600 which was something to be proud of then as during that time, having a 5ft tank was NOT common. :) Shortly after that I expanded my fish keeping collections by getting few more 4ft tanks and a few smaller tanks as well.....that's when I was intrigued by tanganyikan fishes and my priorities changed from arowanas to tanganyikan. Have kept tanganyikan for more than 10 years since then.....and then had to forgo this hobby 6 years+ ago as I have to leave Singapore to Australia. So I sold off all of my tanks (except the 5ft) and all of my fishes to hobbyists as well as fish shops.

Now I'm back in Singapore for good and have decided to start back my hobby in April this year and that's to keep tanganyikan fishes! Visited many lfs before that but was disappointed to see most doesn't sell tanganyikan! Luckily, thru some hobbyists (mainly Tangs_rule & ECtan) here, I've managed to secure some tangs and widen my tangs network again!

Sorry to have 'bored' readers here, but I was kinda hoping to locate some lost contacts too from the days of my tangs keeping. Way back then, knew quite a few good tangs keepers from Petfrd forum website (my nick is also Brichardi) as well as from CF (Jason's time). Drop me a line guys!

Thanks for reading,
sincerely
Raymond

Brichardi 25-09-2013 07:28 PM

Since I started back on tangs in April this year, my collection atm are >>

01) 3 leulupis
02) 8 brichardis
03) 8 comps
04) 8 calvus
05) 5 fronts
06) 4 buscheris
07) 2 julies
08) 3 cyprichromis
09) 3 bevis
10) 4 multis
11) 5 cynus
12) 8 macrops
13) 1 xeno
14) 3 temporalis
15) 3 daffoldils
16) 4 tanganicodus irsacae
17) 5 tropheus
18) 5 nigripinnis
19) 1 featherfin

Non-tangs are >>

01) 5 clown loches
02) 12 sterbei corys
03) 7 angelfishes
04) 2 gold nuggets plecos
05) 20 white cloud minnows
06) 01 salvini
07) 02 flying foxes
08) guppies

Would love to add more altos/lamps/julies or any other so called smaller tangs. Big tangs like furcifers/foais/tricotis/etc have to be shelved until there are plans for a 6 footer tank in future.

TopGun 25-09-2013 08:19 PM

can drop by to nks, look for ric
ask him about his shipments:D

polarpuffs 25-09-2013 09:06 PM

Wow...amazing collection! Where did u get ur multies from?? Been searching high and low for lfs selling but cant find any...

johannes 26-09-2013 12:46 AM

That is quite a list!
Keep it up and more haha:D

gcce 26-09-2013 01:31 AM

An extensive collection indeed... i believe a lot of effort went into collecting them. Looking forward to your tank setup.

foreverfrontosa 26-09-2013 03:35 AM

Impressive collection:)

foreverfrontosa 26-09-2013 03:36 AM

Do post some photos to share:)

tridentdiscus 26-09-2013 01:34 PM

wah your list very long leh, time for "Kodak moment"

Brichardi 26-09-2013 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polarpuffs (Post 9515943)
Wow...amazing collection! Where did u get ur multies from?? Been searching high and low for lfs selling but cant find any...

From our tang Guru ECTan ofc!

Quote:

Originally Posted by johannes (Post 9516179)
That is quite a list!
Keep it up and more haha:D

Sure to get more, thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcce (Post 9516214)
An extensive collection indeed... i believe a lot of effort went into collecting them. Looking forward to your tank setup.

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfrontosa (Post 9516264)
Impressive collection:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfrontosa (Post 9516265)
Do post some photos to share:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tridentdiscus (Post 9516536)
wah your list very long leh, time for "Kodak moment"

Thanks guys! Sadly, I'm very poor with such technicality "taking/loading" photos. All of my time spent is related to my fishes. One fine day I will goggle up and maybe learn how to then. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopGun (Post 9515912)
can drop by to nks, look for ric
ask him about his shipments:D

Some of the fishes are from him actually. ;)

Brichardi 29-09-2013 07:06 PM

Spawning angelfishes
 
Totally unprepared for these, expected but still not sure what to do next. My tank of non-tanga which consists of 12 cory sterbei/11 white cloud minnows/2 gold nugget plecos/1 flying fox/7 angelfishes became a love nest for a pair of angelfishes. This is their first spawn since I bought 8 juveniles 4 months ago. Last 2 days I saw them repeatedly cleaning my couple of bogwoods and only last night I went to a lfs and bought myself a spawning A-shaped slate, and 1 hrs ago I cam back home and saw so many eggs on the slate. :eek:

Now I am in a dilemma...........:confused: decision time......what am I supposed to do with them. Any good suggestions? I have so many tanks but none of them are available. My thoughts are either >>

1) Remove the slate with eggs and hatch them separately; or
2) Ignore them totally and lose some hundreds living things soon.

Brichardi 30-09-2013 09:32 PM

I have decided to separate the 'eggs' and artificially hatch them (without the parents). Should know outcome tomorrow or next day.

B.A.Leo.81 30-09-2013 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brichardi (Post 9519959)
I have decided to separate the 'eggs' and artificially hatch them (without the parents). Should know outcome tomorrow or next day.

GD luck..if they spawn show some pic.

Brichardi 02-10-2013 07:00 PM

Angelfish spawn
 
Just an update....

1) Day 1, the angelfish pair spawn on the spawning slate....about 400 eggs;
2) Day 2, the eggs seem lesser as I believed those not fertilized are eaten/gotten rid by the pair; Slate is removed to another tank to artificially hatch the eggs;
3) Day 3/4 (Today), some turned white, the rest dropped off from the spawning slate and became wrigglers.....about 50+ of them I think. Wrigglers look a lot smaller than most tanganyikan's ciclids eggs/fries. Hope they will take crushed dry food in 3~4 days time when they are free swimming, as I hate to hatch brine shrimps (hated the siphoning process).

Will keep u guys updated, cheers!

gcce 02-10-2013 07:16 PM

Good luck with the spawn.

Brichardi 04-10-2013 02:21 AM

My collection increased abit ...as I just bought 2 more leleupis, 8 dewindis, 3 dickfeldis from NKS just now. ;)

foreverfrontosa 04-10-2013 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brichardi (Post 9519959)
I have decided to separate the 'eggs' and artificially hatch them (without the parents). Should know outcome tomorrow or next day.

All the best, would love to see photos:)

whitedash 04-10-2013 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brichardi (Post 9522924)
My collection increased abit ...as I just bought 2 more leleupis, 8 dewindis, 3 dickfeldis from NKS just now. ;)

Wa! This time must really drop by to check out your collections already!

Brichardi 04-10-2013 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfrontosa (Post 9522930)
All the best, would love to see photos:)

I do NOT really know how to take pics from hp/camera & download it onto net, so u have to excuse me. :) However, if any bros would like to do the honor of helping.... :p


Quote:

Originally Posted by whitedash (Post 9522931)
Wa! This time must really drop by to check out your collections already!

My collection is 'pathetic' if u compare with the gurus like ecTan & Kenneth etc. One staying in executive HDB and the other BIG bungalow whereas I've space constraint in my 4 rooms HDB flat. :o

foreverfrontosa 04-10-2013 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brichardi (Post 9522938)



My collection is 'pathetic' if u compare with the gurus like ecTan & Kenneth etc. One staying in executive HDB and the other BIG bungalow whereas I've space constraint in my 4 rooms HDB flat. :o

Bro it's not a matter of what kind of house you live in it is how you decorate your tanks, your experience and the way you keep your fishes, how you play with the filtrations, maintain your pH and such to let your fishes thrive that ends up a good result and accomplishment in this hobby. Put in effort and passion into it and you'll get the kind of satisfaction when you reach their stage.
End of the day it's just a hobby, never compare just do our best;)

whitedash 04-10-2013 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfrontosa (Post 9522960)
Bro it's not a matter of what kind of house you live in it is how you decorate your tanks, your experience and the way you keep your fishes, how you play with the filtrations, maintain your pH and such to let your fishes thrive that ends up a good result and accomplishment in this hobby. Put in effort and passion into it and you'll get the kind of satisfaction when you reach their stage.
End of the day it's just a hobby, never compare just do our best;)

Well said!


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Brichardi 04-10-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfrontosa (Post 9522960)
Bro it's not a matter of what kind of house you live in it is how you decorate your tanks, your experience and the way you keep your fishes, how you play with the filtrations, maintain your pH and such to let your fishes thrive that ends up a good result and accomplishment in this hobby. Put in effort and passion into it and you'll get the kind of satisfaction when you reach their stage.
End of the day it's just a hobby, never compare just do our best;)

Basically, I meant bigger houses have more spaces for more tanks bro, nothing more to it. In fact I was totally surprised when I saw their collections. It never occurred to me that right here in Singapore (Tanganyikan cichlids are NOT as popular & thriving as in Europe) there are actually people like Kenneth/ecTan/etc that has such a HUGE collection! Kudos to them and happy that its because of people like them :cool: that kept the tanganyikan craze alive still.

As u all know, keeping tanganyikan cichlids is NOT cheap. And poor chap like me (retired since many years ago) .....there's a saying >> "You Xin, Wu Li". Since I started back on keeping fishes in April, I've spent more than $5k on this hobby (fishes/accessories) and I still want more and more tanks/fishes, but due to space constraints....it's hard to fulfil my wishes. Thus, my next project would be to get 3 tiers stands so I can get more tanks. :)

Brichardi 05-10-2013 08:38 PM

Angelfish fries
 
Day 7 >> Fries are free swimming now, about 50++ of them I think.

Now is the real challenge >> raising them on dried food instead of newly hatched brine shrimp. Fries are very small, slightly bigger than bettas fries only. I'm not optimistic about it but will try my best. Keep you guys posted.

Brichardi 08-10-2013 08:33 PM

Angelfish fries
 
Day 10 >> All fries gone!! Amusingly, 1 guppy from another tank managed to jump into it and cleared everything. :) She took the risks by jumping over (From another tank on another stand next to it) and well deserved the meal I guess. :D

Next project, I will just separate the angelfish pair into a tank of their own, since I heard they breed easily (every 2 weeks) from the first spawn. Let's see how it goes from there.

Brichardi 09-10-2013 02:14 PM

Callochromis macrops
 
My macrops are always spawning but they can't seem to hold their eggs. Longest one was holding for 7 days but gave up. Shame as they need to hold it for 3 weeks to then spit out the fries. Most likely reasons for them not holding is 1) community tank - co-existing with other species 2) not enough females to distract the 3 horny males; Hence my next project is to try out different methods: 1) Let it hold for 5~7 days and then strip them or 2) move the holding females to a tank of their own.

My current project is >> 2) I've separated 2 holding females to a tank of their own and see how many days they can hold the eggs. 3 weeks is a long time but let's wait and see how it goes. Wish me luck! :)

Brichardi 09-10-2013 07:28 PM

Angelfish spawn again
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brichardi (Post 9526907)
Day 10 >> All fries gone!! Amusingly, 1 guppy from another tank managed to jump into it and cleared everything. :) She took the risks by jumping over (From another tank on another stand next to it) and well deserved the meal I guess. :D

Next project, I will just separate the angelfish pair into a tank of their own, since I heard they breed easily (every 2 weeks) from the first spawn. Let's see how it goes from there.

Day 11 >> lol The pair spawn again, sadly in the community tank. Too bad, I'm really out of tanks to separate the parents + eggs out or else I would. I have 7 pcs of angelfishes and from the look of it, there are 3 pairs.

Brichardi 10-10-2013 05:36 PM

Angelfish spawn again!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brichardi (Post 9527883)
Day 11 >> lol The pair spawn again, sadly in the community tank. Too bad, I'm really out of tanks to separate the parents + eggs out or else I would. I have 7 pcs of angelfishes and from the look of it, there are 3 pairs.

Day 12 >> All eggs gone, I have the privilege of seeing them eating the whole cluster in 3 mins, sharing with another angelfish + 1 brichardi. Good healthy meal! :D

Will separate the pair to spawn in a tank of their own in future when I have spare tank.

Brichardi 11-10-2013 07:32 PM

Callochromis macrops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brichardi (Post 9527537)
My macrops are always spawning but they can't seem to hold their eggs. Longest one was holding for 7 days but gave up. Shame as they need to hold it for 3 weeks to then spit out the fries. Most likely reasons for them not holding is 1) community tank - co-existing with other species 2) not enough females to distract the 3 horny males; Hence my next project is to try out different methods: 1) Let it hold for 5~7 days and then strip them or 2) move the holding females to a tank of their own.

My current project is >> 2) I've separated 2 holding females to a tank of their own and see how many days they can hold the eggs. 3 weeks is a long time but let's wait and see how it goes. Wish me luck! :)

Day 2 >> 1 female spat out her eggs....about 20 of them as they laid 'fungus-ing' on the bare bottom tank. The other female still holding but not promising. Thinking of stripping her of she ever holds 1 week..... :(

Brichardi 12-10-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brichardi (Post 9529738)
Day 2 >> 1 female spat out her eggs....about 20 of them as they laid 'fungus-ing' on the bare bottom tank. The other female still holding but not promising. Thinking of stripping her of she ever holds 1 week..... :(

Day 3 >> Last holding female also spat out her eggs and fungused on bottom of tank. Project failed! :(

P/S: Is there any chance to close a thread...example like this one as I think I'm the one blabbering away and correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like most people just prefer to post whenever they needed help/advice or buy/sell and only a few peeps bother to share their experiences? :rolleyes: Peace out!

whitedash 17-10-2013 09:30 PM

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Telmatochromis temporalis

Courtesy of Raymond :)


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whitedash 17-10-2013 09:35 PM

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The parents!!


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whitedash 17-10-2013 09:36 PM

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johannes 17-10-2013 11:52 PM

This one nice!

Brichardi 18-10-2013 05:28 PM

Kindly keep us updated on yr fries Spencer/Dickson! :p

Brichardi 18-10-2013 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johannes (Post 9534022)
This one nice!

Thanks! Note the egg crate there :D Main purpose is to 1) raise the height & 2) deter the fish from digging deeper. :p

johannes 19-10-2013 10:54 AM

Haha okay
Interesting

Brichardi 19-10-2013 08:30 PM

Someone was at NKS and picked up 8 juvenile nigripinnis.......hence only left balance 4 for me....I wonder who is it? :confused: My private detective said he's a office working adult! :p

polarpuffs 21-10-2013 10:34 AM

Oops...guilty! :D

Brichardi 21-10-2013 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polarpuffs (Post 9536173)
Oops...guilty! :D

Ah, missed it by couple hrs! How's the nigris now? pic?

Brichardi 24-10-2013 03:04 AM

Just an update....I have new fries/spawn for >>

1) Alto comps (few days old)
2) Callo. macrops (tumbling with tails/head attach to egg sac)
3) 2nd pair of angelfish (second time spawn, first time ate up all eggs on the 3rd day) <<< Priority as never get past the fries stage yet! :(

All suggestions/comments welcome for survival of fries! :D


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