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ROOT 10-07-2008 09:33 PM

wild Heros....
 
received this pair from nick last weekend..

took them awhile to settle down in the small tank, so now able to take some decent pics:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...Picture437.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...Picture438.jpg

ROOT 10-07-2008 09:37 PM

no squabbles so far, maybe still adapting.. but eating well on BW and pellets... hoping for them to spawn, but not much activity going on yet.. :(

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...Picture443.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...Picture444.jpg

Gigas 10-07-2008 10:11 PM

u are making me jealous:(:D

ROOT 10-07-2008 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigas (Post 5955356)
u are making me jealous:(:D

you've got a nice group of big maculatus, who should be envouis?? :mad::D

Alvvin 10-07-2008 11:40 PM

saw some at C328 auntie shop..
but not sure of the pricing..
it right behind where she housed all the louhan tanks..

cheers and happy cichliding...

nicktc 11-07-2008 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alvvin (Post 5955614)
saw some at C328 auntie shop..
but not sure of the pricing..
it right behind where she housed all the louhan tanks..

cheers and happy cichliding...

Those at auntie place are going for $68 a pc. All female though.

zichlid 11-07-2008 12:21 AM

Nice sharp pictures Root! I like the 2nd pic best.

sheng 11-07-2008 09:24 AM

wow, what a hero, nice

jack_dempsey 11-07-2008 10:09 AM

Beautiful couple, bro!
Give them some time to adapt & I'm sure they wont disappoint you. :)

nicktc 11-07-2008 10:21 AM

Hi Ian

Good water and an abundance of food usually does the trick for me.

They gets all fired up when I feed the a combination of live adult brine shrimp and tubifex worm. It’s 'aphrodisiacs' to them.

ROOT 11-07-2008 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicktc (Post 5955719)
Those at auntie place are going for $68 a pc. All female though.

new batch?? thought of getting a few more and comm them!! price wise bargain a little more can get at $55 or less...

Quote:

Originally Posted by zichlid (Post 5955738)
Nice sharp pictures Root! I like the 2nd pic best.

thanks bro... keep some lor..

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheng (Post 5956469)
wow, what a hero, nice

thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack_dempsey (Post 5956536)
Beautiful couple, bro!
Give them some time to adapt & I'm sure they wont disappoint you. :)

let's hope so... but even if breed i prob dun have space to raise the fries...:(

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicktc (Post 5956563)
Hi Ian

Good water and an abundance of food usually does the trick for me.

They gets all fired up when I feed the a combination of live adult brine shrimp and tubifex worm. It’s 'aphrodisiacs' to them.

you spoil them! :mad::D

mon 11-07-2008 03:28 PM

nice pair u haf!!:D

zichlid 12-07-2008 02:56 PM

Not for now.
Reserve tank space for pikes.. hehe

ROOT 12-07-2008 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mon (Post 5957781)
nice pair u haf!!:D

thanks bro...

Quote:

Originally Posted by zichlid (Post 5960257)
Not for now.
Reserve tank space for pikes.. hehe

so far other than Ben's, have you managed to get more??

anyway, took new shots of the pair in their new home, i think they're much more stable in the bigger space:

http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=327077

Gigas 12-07-2008 07:13 PM

Maybe I should get the female from C328 and the male from QH? These guys grow out to be 12/3 inches right? Should be very showy at those sizes:)

zichlid 12-07-2008 09:45 PM

Bro Root,
Yes. I reserved the pike that is at NKS.
Can't id yet though. Any idea? Its at the L46 row..

I am patiently waiting for a pair of C. atabapo as well. hehe.

Gigas 14-07-2008 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zichlid (Post 5961003)
Bro Root,
Yes. I reserved the pike that is at NKS.
Can't id yet though. Any idea? Its at the L46 row..

I am patiently waiting for a pair of C. atabapo as well. hehe.

Bro...that piece is a female johanna. Nice fish, I packed 1 of the marmorata below. :)

zichlid 14-07-2008 10:19 PM

Thanks for the id Gigas..
Now I know.. :)

ROOT 20-07-2008 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zichlid (Post 5961003)
Bro Root,
Yes. I reserved the pike that is at NKS.
Can't id yet though. Any idea? Its at the L46 row..

I am patiently waiting for a pair of C. atabapo as well. hehe.

not so soon bro.. have just set up a 'atabapo' tank... :D

see if can trigger them to spawn in this new setup... :)

liwu313 22-07-2008 08:20 PM

look nice....big mouth

ROOT 23-07-2008 04:50 PM

just an update.. the pair took the eggs into brooding at less than 48 hours, so i guess the eggs have not hatched then..

an observation.. i remember when i first discovered the eggs are no longer on the wood, the female was brooding the eggs.. but when i wanted to take some pics last night, the male was holding!! is this expected? :confused:

here's the brooding male:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...Picture516.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...Picture521.jpg

nicktc 23-07-2008 05:05 PM

Hi Ian

According to my limited knowledge thru reading. :D
These are true hero’s and they delayed are mouth brooders

This is really interesting, I guess they need to eat in between.

ROOT 23-07-2008 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicktc (Post 5993972)
Hi Ian

According to my limited knowledge thru reading. :D
These are true hero’s and they delayed are mouth brooders

This is really interesting, I guess they need to eat in between.

hi nic, yes, indeed they are.. i'm not surprised they're mouth brooders, just puzzled with 2 things:

1) they picked up the eggs very early, much earlier then what i've experienced before with other delayed brooders, like the RHT for example, which i remember they'll pick them just before hatching.. maybe it's just this pair.. :o

2) i'm 99% sure the female 1st picked the eggs.. but i'm 100% sure the male is holding them now.. i've only known betta macrostomas to pass eggs from mouth to mouth (also to my limited knowledge thru reading).. you may be right, they could be taking turns to brood so they could eat, i hope they surprise me tonight... :D

ROOT 27-07-2008 01:41 PM

free swimming fries...
 
today is the day the wrigglers are free swimming, so it's time to strip them out from the parents' mouth...

apparently, only the male was holding, female is plain lazy.. :D

can see the first few fries coming out:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...cture598-1.jpg

ROOT 27-07-2008 01:42 PM

more fries:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...cture599-1.jpg

after few minutes of 'squeezing':

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...cture604-1.jpg

ROOT 27-07-2008 01:44 PM

here're the fries!!!!!!

can count how many?? :p i could count 130+... :eek: all in the male's mouth...

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...Picture609.jpg

nicktc 27-07-2008 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROOT (Post 6003965)
here're the fries!!!!!!

can count how many?? :p i could count 130+... :eek: all in the male's mouth...

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...Picture609.jpg

:cool: This picture is really nice.

wimbellis 28-07-2008 10:33 AM

The fry are so cute! Let me know when the fry are ready for sale.;)

Dave57 28-07-2008 11:20 AM

congrats!
nice pics.
some questions:

1)How big are the parents?
2)How long after they start brooding that you started "squeezing"?

scopeyeo 28-07-2008 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROOT (Post 5955303)
no squabbles so far, maybe still adapting.. but eating well on BW and pellets... hoping for them to spawn, but not much activity going on yet.. :(

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...Picture443.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...Picture444.jpg

Very nice pair.....hope they will bred very readily soon...

ROOT 28-07-2008 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicktc (Post 6004333)
:cool: This picture is really nice.

look like something?? :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by wimbellis (Post 6006340)
The fry are so cute! Let me know when the fry are ready for sale.;)

will do.. IF i can raise them to a good size...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave57 (Post 6006499)
congrats!
nice pics.
some questions:

1)How big are the parents?
2)How long after they start brooding that you started "squeezing"?

parents are about 5-6" TL... in Singapore weather, normally the wrigglers will be free swimming on the 4th to 5th day after hatching...

Quote:

Originally Posted by scopeyeo (Post 6006633)
Very nice pair.....hope they will bred very readily soon...

bro, u very funny leh.. already bred... :( :D

ROOT 28-07-2008 12:59 PM

here's the latest pic of the pair... happily feeding after so many days of hardship...

hopefully they will rest till the current batch is of good size before spawning again..

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...cture620-1.jpg

Dave57 28-07-2008 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROOT (Post 6006821)
parents are about 5-6" TL... in Singapore weather, normally the wrigglers will be free swimming on the 4th to 5th day after hatching...

Thanks for the info.

May I suggest that you allow the parents to bring up their next batch of fry themselves. It would be very interesting to witness their brooding/fry-raising process. I had previously seen a photo of an Eartheater releasing fry from its mouth. That picture is really beautiful. Would love to see pictures of a Heros doing this too...

:D

The Panoramic shot of your tank is very nice! That pike looks jealous.

ROOT 28-07-2008 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave57 (Post 6006966)
Thanks for the info.

May I suggest that you allow the parents to bring up their next batch of fry themselves. It would be very interesting to witness their brooding/fry-raising process. I had previously seen a photo of an Eartheater releasing fry from its mouth. That picture is really beautiful. Would love to see pictures of a Heros doing this too...

:D

The Panoramic shot of your tank is very nice! That pike looks jealous.

sure, as you may understand, as a hobbyist, we tend to play 'safe' and strip these fellas, in case they eat up their fries for some reason.. and especially so for 1st spawn, and that these parents were sold/purchased as 'wild'...

for 2nd spawn, i'm not sure how well these fellas could hold out against the pair of pikes they're now housed with... let's see then!! :)

if only i had more tanks, i would surely let them take care of their next spawn... :(

Dave57 28-07-2008 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROOT (Post 6006982)
sure, as you may understand, as a hobbyist, we tend to play 'safe' and strip these fellas, in case they eat up their fries for some reason.. and especially so for 1st spawn, and that these parents were sold/purchased as 'wild'...

for 2nd spawn, i'm not sure how well these fellas could hold out against the pair of pikes they're now housed with... let's see then!! :)

if only i had more tanks, i would surely let them take care of their next spawn... :(

I understand. The excitement of having new fry and raising them. Breeding them is another part of the joy of keeping cichlids. But as I cant afford to house them, I can only suggest. Anyway, really thanks for taking my suggestion into consideration. :D please update us with more photos if you decided to do it. :D:D

Leong68 28-07-2008 02:57 PM

Nice pair and Nice photo shot. bro

nicktc 28-07-2008 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROOT (Post 6006982)
sure, as you may understand, as a hobbyist, we tend to play 'safe' and strip these fellas, in case they eat up their fries for some reason.. and especially so for 1st spawn, and that these parents were sold/purchased as 'wild'...

for 2nd spawn, i'm not sure how well these fellas could hold out against the pair of pikes they're now housed with... let's see then!! :)

if only i had more tanks, i would surely let them take care of their next spawn... :(

Hehe for me it’s the other way round, usually if it is the first spawn, I leave to the parents.

Unless the parents do not do the job, then I may intervene.

But looks like you don’t have a choice with the pikes lurking nearby.

Once again, great pictures and setup.

Can you do an exclusive profile on these wild atabapos singpaore style? :o

atajuni 28-07-2008 04:28 PM

May I know how you could tell the difference between the male and the female for these heros ?

Thank you

nicktc 28-07-2008 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atajuni (Post 6007502)
May I know how you could tell the difference between the male and the female for these heros ?

Thank you

Look closely at the gill plates just below the mouth area, male will have some spots.

See the spots on the male's chin (fish on the left)
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...Picture438.jpg

atajuni 28-07-2008 04:56 PM

Thank you nick. Very great help indeed.


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