Safety Lapse - MINDEF
 

SINGAPORE: The Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) will set up an Inspector-General's Office*to ensure that "command emphasis on safety" is applied and enforced across all SAF units, said the Ministry of Defence (MINDEF) in a news release on Thursday (Jan 31).

The office will support the Chief of Defence Force Lieutenant-General (LG) Melvyn Ong and have full authority to scrutinise and enforce safety processes and practices at all levels of the SAF.

LG Ong held a*command call at Pasir Laba Camp earlier Thursday, where he met with 750 active and operationally ready National Service commanders and shared plans to make training safer for SAF servicemen.

Speaking to media after the command call, Chief of Army Major-General (MG) Goh Si Hou said that*the army will expand*the number of safety inspection teams and full-time safety officers to conduct checks and audits on units' safety systems.*

This was part of the army's effort to strengthen safety management structures on the ground, MG Goh said.

MG Goh also said that the safety time-out that was implemented across the army in the wake of actor Aloysius Pang’s death will be lifted progressively after Feb 7.*

All army units will be allowed to resume basic types of training such as physical fitness training, small arms live-firing, Individual Physical Proficiency Test (IPPT) and IPPT Preparatory Training (IPT) for NSmen from Feb 7.*

Corporal First Class (NS) Pang, an armament technician with the 268th Battalion, had been injured while conducting repair work on a Singapore Self-Propelled Howitzer.*

The 28-year-old had been participating in Exercise Thunder Warrior, a*live-firing exercise, in New Zealand when the accident happened.*

Pang died on Jan 23 after undergoing a number of operations to treat his injuries.*

“Safety is a command responsibility. Commanders answer for the training and safety of their men. To do so, commanders have to be fully committed and personally and intimately involved in their unit’s training, operations, and safety,” said LG Ong, as cited in the press release.*

“The reduction in training tempo will allow us commanders to take stock, re-orientate, and give full attention to this,” he added.

MINDEF confirmed on Wednesday*that a Committee of Inquiry (COI) was convened on Jan 25 to investigate Pang's death, with a judge from the State Court as its chairman.*

Other members of the COI panel include a consultant medical specialist, a member of the External Review Panel on SAF Safety, a member of the Workplace Safety and Health Council and a senior-ranked national serviceman.

None of the COI members work within MINDEF or are SAF regulars, the ministry said.

The incident in New Zealand is*the fourth time in 18 months that an SAF soldier has died*while*training.

Minister for Defence Ng Eng Hen is set to deliver a ministerial statement at the next parliamentary sitting in February to address the deaths.

The command call was also attended by Chief of Air Force MG Mervyn Tan, Chief of Navy Rear-Admiral Lew Chuen Hong and all senior commanders of the SAF.

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one of e comment quite candid but rather logical...

Let's hope CFC Pang's death really AWAKENS Mindef and we dont need more unnecessary MinDEATHS.

renamed Ministry of Death (MinDeath) and the minister will be the Minister of Death

“The reduction in training tempo will allow us commanders to take stock, re-orientate, and give full attention to this,” he added.


This is the main cause.
You can have all the safety guidelines on paper
But when u rush, rush, rush ..... how to make sure the safety guidelines are followed ?


And dun tell us to speak up to the commanders when safety concerns are stretched ....
like as if we never do NS before

Till 7th February, pause.

Wayang then back to square one. If national selfish, bochap and taichi attitude dun change, step by step the whole country will be finished. Rich one zao, poor ones stay back n suffer together.

After more than 50 years of NS still cannot improve safety standards
Parents damn heartache
Bring up a son but died not at war but during training

Use public fund to set up this and that

Compiled some reports and put some new SOP into place then all ok.
All these will take several weeks, all quiet down liao by then.

My take is accident will continue to happen, very little we can do about it.
I am a trained infantry officer. My observation is that accident and injury happen when fatigue set in. Yet, we cannot train our boys less hard as in war we do not have the option of calling for tea break.
Training needs to mirror real scenario.
My officers in the army once said, if I could put u through without food and sleep, I would do it but your parents wouldn’t like it.

That is why i said review kee lan.:D

I am still waiting for the incident report of aloysius case to be shown in public media.

Last time in my recce course, we slept two hours a day. Middle of night backpack signal set and ran about in tekong forest for hours regularly, got men kena tekan to drank two litres water quickly also zero casuality. Made us walked under hot sun in full chemical defence suit, until one collapsed, then exercise cut, was that to test the human limit? The only injuries sustain by a few in the whole company are just sprained back that downgraded them. Those are not really training injuries but from doing cheap labours like building spectator stands.:D

The only accurate details will be the other 2 guys inside.

They wont be allowed to talk. I suspect immediately after the accident they would be warned of.milutary secrecy and the consequences if they reveal.

They wont be allowed to talk. I suspect immediately after the accident they would be warned of.milutary secrecy and the consequences if they reveal.

This is Singapore, where they control you till you die having your own money you cant have free access to, what cant be controlled by the control freaks.

I think nowadays with internet and social media, it is pretty hard to hide things under carpet.

I had never grumbled against NS during my time. And I take pride in being in a combat role. But for the past years how things in SG have changed my perspective. Now I think it is no longer worth it to serve.

I served till 48 when they decided it’s enough and let me go.
I am happy to serve for the love of country and need to defend my family.
If they call me tomorrow, I will still go

Yes only this 2 guys know what happened hope they tell the truth

I love thel physical training and range but not the sweat the dirt without washing up for long time. I love to run soc and all ippt stations, i wonder why they take out pull up, cos that seperate boys from men.

I remembered my love for the country when I was still a kid more than 30 yrs back. Singing 'count on me singapore', holding the Old Guards in awe :)

Cos they want to emulate armies like US mah. They may have removed chin-ups in ippt, but i believe they still do them to build arm strength. Or else how to climb over low wall or low rope?

Maybe now low wall, below dig hole and crawl thru :D

Wish you were with me. We did 11 straight soc as our tekan session in ocs. Though not all are full course, still bloody siong. That was 1991/2.
If it happens today I wonder what would be the consequences

11 SOC! :eek: if happens today sure kena complain!

i think when u r 20 years old, first time as commander, first time has people that u can order them around,
as opposed to when u look back when u r 40 years old or 50 years old, well it will be very different ....

try to recall properly, clearly ......
maybe not yourself personally ....
but how many 20 years old, first time being in charge, do not suddenly have big egos ....... tekan for the sake of doing it ....

Up till today, i still dun see the point i have to run and kiss the tree and run back ......
and dun get me started on bringing my bed and metal locker down 4 storeys at ITD (Sembawang)

realistic warfare ?? LoL ....
dun make my toes laugh

These type of training/tekan produces machine. I did my final SoC in 7.47. Best pt came in 6.47. I never came close again after ocs.

When kena tekan, from bmt i already learned to save energy, just perform barely acceptable and save as much energy as possible, sure got some that will still fare worse than me. Also, the face must act damn chiam and best is cry for mercy. Many of those trainers are bian tai one, once they shiok they will stop.

Those r brain washing methods. If not, if asked to charge, no one will obey.

Well in early 90s, we trainees in ocs also Bian tai. Not sure about today.

I heard commandos r bian tai. I only know one, but he seems ok. He is 48 yo already.

This kind of training produces resentment ....
hated the army till today

Only non thinking soldiers will become machines ....
and the SAF wanted " thinking soldiers " ?
or the SAF wanted " machines " ?

20 years old commanders are children themselves ....
they are just kids ...... and put in charge of kids

and then the minister says go talk to your commanders if the safety processes were breached ..... or stop training altogether
go kiss the tree and come back
sign 7 extra
or charge for insubordination

During my time in mid 70's which BMT in Nee Soon, Platoon Sergeants, CPLs need to address them by Sirs. Forgot how many times my fellow recruits n myself kena tekan. Luckily after passing out posted out to Beach Rd Camp for 2.5 yrs as Clerk although PES 1 status.

Minister kong si mi talk to commanders

Platoon sergeant say gear up move out means cheong liao

Unless you want to sign extra or confinement every weekend

U white horse? Father billionaire ?

My late father was an ordinary Salesman with a textile company. I black horse not white horse. In my Beach Rd Camp there was an Indian white horse (Clerk}whose father was a Supreme Court Judge. Every day chauffered driven to camp.

Bian tai as in... 50 shades of green?:D

I heard many are crazy one.

can piak non stop like Ong?

Dun compare ong with them.

Those are said to be brain one screw loose or short circuit.

my PC and OC are commando and ranger trained...
our training also not bian tai leh

Their mind r strong.

Many years ago I knew one guy, posted to sniper, after ROD personality change become reclusive.:confused:

Sad to read the ministerial statement today on the bionix reverse into land rover case

The land rover commander told the driver to over take the bionix which at the same time reversed due to disengagement because of fire from front

The really tough-minded commandos are those trained in 70s. Have seen one of them old liao but can still fight win 2 younger pai kias.