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jwhtan 09-02-2019 05:11 PM

i think when u r 20 years old, first time as commander, first time has people that u can order them around,
as opposed to when u look back when u r 40 years old or 50 years old, well it will be very different ....

try to recall properly, clearly ......
maybe not yourself personally ....
but how many 20 years old, first time being in charge, do not suddenly have big egos ....... tekan for the sake of doing it ....

Up till today, i still dun see the point i have to run and kiss the tree and run back ......
and dun get me started on bringing my bed and metal locker down 4 storeys at ITD (Sembawang)

realistic warfare ?? LoL ....
dun make my toes laugh

Robson 09-02-2019 06:06 PM

These type of training/tekan produces machine. I did my final SoC in 7.47. Best pt came in 6.47. I never came close again after ocs.

millenium 09-02-2019 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Robson (Post 10021069)
Wish you were with me. We did 11 straight soc as our tekan session in ocs. Though not all are full course, still bloody siong. That was 1991/2.
If it happens today I wonder what would be the consequences

When kena tekan, from bmt i already learned to save energy, just perform barely acceptable and save as much energy as possible, sure got some that will still fare worse than me. Also, the face must act damn chiam and best is cry for mercy. Many of those trainers are bian tai one, once they shiok they will stop.

millenium 09-02-2019 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Robson (Post 10021077)
These type of training/tekan produces machine. I did my final SoC in 7.47. Best pt came in 6.47. I never came close again after ocs.

Those r brain washing methods. If not, if asked to charge, no one will obey.

Robson 09-02-2019 06:41 PM

Well in early 90s, we trainees in ocs also Bian tai. Not sure about today.

millenium 09-02-2019 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robson (Post 10021081)
Well in early 90s, we trainees in ocs also Bian tai. Not sure about today.

I heard commandos r bian tai. I only know one, but he seems ok. He is 48 yo already.

jwhtan 09-02-2019 07:15 PM

This kind of training produces resentment ....
hated the army till today

Only non thinking soldiers will become machines ....
and the SAF wanted " thinking soldiers " ?
or the SAF wanted " machines " ?

20 years old commanders are children themselves ....
they are just kids ...... and put in charge of kids

and then the minister says go talk to your commanders if the safety processes were breached ..... or stop training altogether
go kiss the tree and come back
sign 7 extra
or charge for insubordination

leeqf 09-02-2019 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robson (Post 10021069)
Wish you were with me. We did 11 straight soc as our tekan session in ocs. Though not all are full course, still bloody siong. That was 1991/2.
If it happens today I wonder what would be the consequences

During my time in mid 70's which BMT in Nee Soon, Platoon Sergeants, CPLs need to address them by Sirs. Forgot how many times my fellow recruits n myself kena tekan. Luckily after passing out posted out to Beach Rd Camp for 2.5 yrs as Clerk although PES 1 status.

foxwagon 10-02-2019 02:04 PM

Minister kong si mi talk to commanders

Platoon sergeant say gear up move out means cheong liao

Unless you want to sign extra or confinement every weekend

Robson 10-02-2019 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeqf (Post 10021090)
During my time in mid 70's which BMT in Nee Soon, Platoon Sergeants, CPLs need to address them by Sirs. Forgot how many times my fellow recruits n myself kena tekan. Luckily after passing out posted out to Beach Rd Camp for 2.5 yrs as Clerk although PES 1 status.

U white horse? Father billionaire ?


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