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KeeHuat 23-01-2020 09:14 AM

We are suffering because of mismanagement of football matters at the top.

Woodward who does not know football but thinks he does and has had four managers since SAF left, four different managers with different styles of play who signed players based on how they want to play. SAF is also to blame for partially starting the rot by recommending his Scot Moyes who was out of his depth.

We will have to endure the pain for sometime.

lenghan 23-01-2020 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liang_Zai (Post 10025802)
Same old story is ole up to the task?? He seems to have no clue at all 2nil down

Totally agree. Ole is totally clueless. Yet he is so meek, and 101% a YES man to Woody and the Board.
More then 70% possession, decent amount of shots on goal, but strikers simply not good enough. Burnley had two shot on target, and both ended up in the net. Yet Ole still think we had a good game after losing 2-0????
Our newly installed captain was poor in his defending and did nothing to rally the team throughout the game.
Ole kept saying we need new players, but where are these "invisible" targets?
As long as we are in this dire state, other teams are fully capitalising and demanding ridiculous prices and there seems nothing we can do about it. Fans will just need to suck it up!!
Personally the only one word to describe the team is INCONSISTENCY

lukeber 23-01-2020 08:50 PM

Just one month ago, the team won 0-2 away at Burnley. Maybe injuries is one of the reasons. Pep won nothing in his first year and also lost games this season when many players are out injuries.

Now itís rebuilding in the first year, I thought Oleís doing okay.

lenghan 26-01-2020 02:51 PM

Even to get players on a short term stint looks likely a failure
Reported that even Cavani does not want to join us

loveikan 26-01-2020 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lenghan (Post 10025819)
Even to get players on a short term stint looks likely a failure
Reported that even Cavani does not want to join us

Reported that his dad encouraged him to play in la Liga and he prefer to join AM and leave this month hence AM initial offer was 8mil compared to PSG demand of 25mil.

Anyway with we have a thin squad and so many injuries to key or players who were in form before their injuries, who ever come in, the team will face huge task till the end of the season unless we can get more than 3 players in but all of us knew by now that it is impossible esp with our transfer team.
The mgmt most probably not gonna to bring in player in Jan or maybe 1 or 2, perhaps might want to concentrate in the summer mkt.

So our best bet for us is to win the cup game in order to play in Europe.

sfk7 26-01-2020 07:21 PM

Cant help but agree with Oliver Holt. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ard-blame.html

Woodward, who is still the de facto director of football, started the clear-out at Old Trafford but forgot the rebuild. Manchester United have got more noodle sponsors than functioning midfielders but let's not allow that to get in the way of the idea that Solskjaer isn't up to the job.

United are fifth in the Premier League. That's a place higher than they were when Jose Mourinho left and scarpered back to London.

With the squad Solskjaer has, and the mess he was bequeathed by the conglomerate of incompetence that came before him, that he has managed to keep United in contention for the top four is an achievement, not a reason for scorn. In case you hadn't noticed, United have not been title contenders for a while.

It remains to be seen whether Woodward will bow to pressure and pull the trigger on Solskjaer +9
It remains to be seen whether Woodward will bow to pressure and pull the trigger on Solskjaer
Woodward and the Glazer family can put their hands up for that. They have led United to a land a million miles away from the place where Liverpool and Manchester City reside.

The scrap for the best of the rest is their blasted landscape now and somehow Solskjaer has managed to keep them ahead of Arsenal and Spurs in the race of the one-eyed giants.

This may not be the most opportune time to defend Solskjaer. The eve of an away trip to League One strugglers Tranmere Rovers, which has got FA Cup giant-killing written all over it, very rarely is. And, sure, the home league defeat by Burnley last Wednesday, the lines of fans heading for the exits with 10 minutes to go and the swathes of empty seats was not a good look.

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But to get rid of Solskjaer now would be the most damning symbol yet of quite how far the club has strayed from what made it great. To bow to hysterical demands to change the manager yet again, barely a year after he took over, would be to complete United's transition to the antithesis of what they once stood for.

Once, that was stability and trophies. Now they teeter on the brink of anarchy.

Everyone knows who is really to blame for the omnishambles at England's biggest club. It is the club's owners, the Glazers, and their placeman, Woodward. Many of United's match-going fans recognise this, which is why they still chanted their support for Solskjaer on Wednesday night and turned on the ownership instead.

Some of the chants went too far. The Bonfire Song, whose lyrics paint a picture of people being burned on a pyre, has become a staple of English football and United fans have, apparently, been adapting it to include Woodward and the Glazers for some time.

Fans are now turning against the United chief, with vile and disrespectful chants in the stands +9
Fans are now turning against the United chief, with vile and disrespectful chants in the stands
Matters were not helped by United target Erling Haaland scoring for fun at Borussia Dortmund +9
Matters were not helped by United target Erling Haaland scoring for fun at Borussia Dortmund
Some years ago, England fans sang about putting Rio and Anton Ferdinand on the fire. It was not acceptable then and it is not acceptable now. That, however, should not be allowed to obscure the fact that Woodward and the Glazers bear the primary responsibility for what has happened to United. They bear the responsibility for the club's fall from grace.

They bear the responsibility for turning it into a cash-cow rather than a football club. They bear the responsibility for a series of botched managerial appointments. The buck stops with them. They bear the responsibility for the shockingly poor player recruitment that has left Solskjaer with the skeletal playing staff he has now.

The Glazers have taken somewhere in the region of £1billion in dividends out of United and the club is starting to reek of decay on and off the field.

Compare them with Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, Liverpool, Manchester City and Spurs and United look old and jaded and tired and starved of investment.

Woodward is not a malevolent man but he is the frontman for a regime that has ripped the heart out of a club that once ruled the English game.

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He does not deserve to be abused and threatened but nor does he deserve to be in charge of a club like United. In the seven years since he took over from David Gill, he has been a spectacular failure. Woodward is clearly a very talented financial operator but he is blinded by celebrity and by reputation.

The mess at United is deep-rooted, and leaves the clubs miles away from Liverpool and City +9
The mess at United is deep-rooted, and leaves the clubs miles away from Liverpool and City
This is a man who, it is reported, addressed Wayne Rooney as 'Wazza' when he texted him as if he wanted to be his friend. This is a man who hired Louis van Gaal and Mourinho when they were both past their sell-by dates. This is a man who blew United's chance of hiring Jurgen Klopp six years ago by trying to sell United to him as 'an adult version of Disneyland'.

This is a man who has sanctioned the purchases of has-beens with famous names and of journeymen who barely survive a season. This is a man who thought he could throw money at the situation and found out, perhaps for the first time in his life, that money can't buy everything. This is a man who has turned Manchester United from a football club into a trading floor.

Once, they were an elite club awash with tradition and class. Now, they're a pound shop Real Madrid, worlds behind Liverpool and City.

The conclusion is obvious: Woodward should be kept a long, long, long way away from football decisions. He should have been removed from his role a long time ago. The fact that he wasn't is more evidence the Glazers prize success off the field above success on it.

Woodward's only slim hope of redemption lies in continuing to back Solskjaer, as he has promised to do. And if the Glazers ask him to betray the manager and fire him, Woodward should do the right thing, take the blame himself and finally admit that if there is one person at Old Trafford who is out of his depth, it is him.

KeeHuat 26-01-2020 11:40 PM

Man Utd: Romero; Dalot, Lindelof, Maguire, Jones, Shaw; Matic, Pereira, Lingard; Martial, Greenwood

Subs: Grant, Bailly, Williams, Fred, Mata, James, Chong

KeeHuat 27-01-2020 12:05 AM

The pitch is terrible

loveikan 27-01-2020 12:12 AM

oh....what a shot from Magiire and his 1st goal.....finally!

loveikan 27-01-2020 12:15 AM

2-0.....dalot and a good strike by him

Liang_Zai 27-01-2020 12:24 AM

Does it proof that lingard is of league 1 standard rather than premier league??

loveikan 27-01-2020 12:43 AM

and Jones scored with a good looping header to make it 4-0

loveikan 27-01-2020 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liang_Zai (Post 10025827)
Does it proof that lingard is of league 1 standard rather than premier league??

he miskicked a potential goal...otherwise he will be a top scorer in the 1st half:p

KeeHuat 27-01-2020 01:52 AM

Through to the 5th round. Unexpected 6 goals with 5 in the 1st half.

Pereira still can't play well in this match and Dalot beaten too many times on the outside in the 1st half.

KeeHuat 28-01-2020 08:06 AM

FA Cup fifth-round
Northampton Town or Derby County v Manchester United

In a change to the usual format, all eight ties will be played across three midweek nights from 3-5 March, with no replays.

If any of the ties are level after 90 minutes there will be 30 minutes of extra time and, if necessary, penalties to determine a winner on the night.

loveikan 28-01-2020 09:39 PM

true? let's wait whether there will an official announcement if it is true.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has confirmed Alexis Sanchez will return to Manchester United this summer: “Alexis [Sanchez] will come back in the summer and will prove youse all wrong."

loveikan 28-01-2020 09:46 PM

finally found one? read quite a few reports on this Antero Henrique being shortlisted.

But with 4 days left before the Jan window closes, a DOF coming soon with no new player on board. Well done Woody!

Manchester United are in advanced negotiations with Antero Henrique. He could arrive in the coming weeks with the aim of turning the club into a ‘recruiting machine’. He was previously PSG’s Sporting Director [Foot Mercato, France]

lenghan 29-01-2020 01:10 AM

Barca is now eyeing Bruno Fernandes and will probably get him if Woody keeps haggling on the price and wouldn't be surprised if sold to Barca at lower price!!!

lenghan 29-01-2020 04:25 AM

Now that Barca got involved, it seems there is now a breakthrough that Bruno may be heading to OT!!!!
So it had to take Barca to force Woody's hand

loveikan 29-01-2020 09:19 AM

hahahaah...will it forced Woody to ip the money and agreed to Sporting demand.

btw, read that Woody £2mil hse were visited by 20 fans who wanted him out.

loveikan 29-01-2020 09:20 AM

AV reached the final of the Bao cup:p after beating Lei 2-1 with an aggregate of 3-2.

Good job by AV....now our away game at MC gound is next

loveikan 29-01-2020 01:17 PM

Giroud is hot property with JM interested in him

and for us, will we see a final rush to the finish line?

loveikan 29-01-2020 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loveikan (Post 10025846)
hahahaah...will it forced Woody to ip the money and agreed to Sporting demand.

btw, read that Woody £2mil hse were visited by 20 fans who wanted him out.

here is the video.

https://www.facebook.com/44653368870...6225500731240/

lenghan 29-01-2020 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loveikan (Post 10025846)
hahahaah...will it forced Woody to ip the money and agreed to Sporting demand.

btw, read that Woody £2mil hse were visited by 20 fans who wanted him out.

They actually tried to torch his home. Personally I don't agree with such evil deeds. What if his children were at home and torched to death???

jwhtan 29-01-2020 01:46 PM

disgraceful acts ..... i think a lot of " fans " were only fans during the SAF days and never experience those 26 years when we did not win the league.
regardless, as fans, we'll cheer the team during good times and bad.



not turn violent this way

loveikan 29-01-2020 02:41 PM

yes. was shocked that this gang done these acts.

Truly, no one likes what he had done on the transfer mkt but surely no one deserves to be treated like this at all.

hope the authorities will apprehend these culprits soon

loveikan 29-01-2020 05:37 PM

True? if yes, must thanks Barca....hahaha

BOOKED IN

Man Utd have reportedly scheduled a medical for Bruno Fernandes after a transfer fee was agreed between the Red Devils and Sporting.

The Portuguese ace has been heavily linked with a move to Old Trafford for the entirety of January.

Yet, with just days left of the window, United look set to complete the deal worth £46.6m plus £8.5m in add-ons – along with £12.7m fee in performance-related bonuses.

And now the Red Devils have provisionally scheduled*his medical assessment for Thursday, as reported by the Daily Telegraph.

loveikan 29-01-2020 09:49 PM

Man United fixtures

Hereís a look at Unitedís next six fixtures.

29/01 City (A) League Cup

1/02 Wolves (H)

17/02 Chelsea (A)

20/02 Brugge (A)

23/02 Watford (H)

27/02 Brugge (H)

lenghan 29-01-2020 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loveikan (Post 10025853)
True? if yes, must thanks Barca....hahaha

BOOKED IN

Man Utd have reportedly scheduled a medical for Bruno Fernandes after a transfer fee was agreed between the Red Devils and Sporting.

The Portuguese ace has been heavily linked with a move to Old Trafford for the entirety of January.

Yet, with just days left of the window, United look set to complete the deal worth £46.6m plus £8.5m in add-ons Ė along with £12.7m fee in performance-related bonuses.

And now the Red Devils have provisionally scheduled*his medical assessment for Thursday, as reported by the Daily Telegraph.

His agent must have played his cards right, invoking Barca into the picture!!!

lenghan 30-01-2020 02:27 AM

Reported that BF deal is finally done

loveikan 30-01-2020 05:07 AM

Manchester United is delighted to announce it has reached agreement with Sporting Clube de Portugal for the transfer of Bruno Fernandes.

The deal is subject to a medical and the agreement of personal terms.

A further announcement will be made in due course.

loveikan 30-01-2020 05:23 AM

matic scores! 0-1 to Man Utd now. 35min

lenghan 30-01-2020 05:29 AM

Yeah....but City dominating. Ours one shot n one gosl

loveikan 30-01-2020 06:43 AM

ended 0-1. agg 3-2. Martial is non existent today.

DDG saved a few goal bound goals.

KeeHuat 30-01-2020 06:44 AM

1-0 win not enough

lenghan 30-01-2020 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loveikan (Post 10025860)
ended 0-1. agg 3-2. Martial is non existent today.

DDG saved a few goal bound goals.

This is my main issue with AM. He is very inconsistent

loveikan 30-01-2020 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lenghan (Post 10025862)
This is my main issue with AM. He is very inconsistent

Also wonder why Lingard often chosen to play in the 1st 11. he was playing very poorly too

KeeHuat 30-01-2020 01:18 PM

Lingard got the hairdryer from OGS during the match and got substituted a short while later

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...aring-21390271

jwhtan 30-01-2020 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loveikan (Post 10025857)
Manchester United is delighted to announce it has reached agreement with Sporting Clube de Portugal for the transfer of Bruno Fernandes.

The deal is subject to a medical and the agreement of personal terms.

A further announcement will be made in due course.


Hope for the best.

Joao Felix cost 120M and he hasn't exactly star at Atletico Madrid

loveikan 30-01-2020 07:37 PM

really got to hope for the best.
the risk is always there when the player is from another league.

as for the mgr, still hope OGS will remain to do the rebuilding works.


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