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lenghan 28-10-2019 01:35 AM

Wow Spurs scored in 1st min against Liverpool

Liang_Zai 28-10-2019 02:01 AM

Very poor penalty by rashford. Nice assist by james and rashford score

lenghan 28-10-2019 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Liang_Zai (Post 10024917)
Very poor penalty by rashford. Nice assist by james and rashford score

At least he made up with a great goal

lenghan 28-10-2019 02:17 AM

Another penalty saved by Norwich

Liang_Zai 28-10-2019 02:19 AM

We should have kill the game off

lenghan 28-10-2019 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Liang_Zai (Post 10024920)
We should have kill the game off

Yes we should have killed the game off in the first half, and what should have been 4-0 is now 2-0
But still a healthy lead and fortunately we are still in control of the game

lenghan 28-10-2019 02:55 AM

Just hope those missed penalties doesn;t come to haunt us later and now the game is getting more feisty with robust challenges and red card is surely waiting for both sides

lenghan 28-10-2019 03:03 AM

A much needed 3rd goal by AM to calm down the tension
And if this remained the same we will climb to 7th position!!!!!

BBP604 28-10-2019 03:38 AM

We are more organised and composed.
Hope the 1st teamers can get more game time together.
3pts in the bag.:)

KeeHuat 28-10-2019 04:03 AM

The team is improving and Martial back makes a difference. James is playing well.

Tim Krul is good at saving penalties with his clubs and Holland but I noticed he actually steps forward off the goal line to narrow the angle twice but the referee didn't spot it.

loveikan 28-10-2019 07:56 AM

BREAKING: Paul Pogba’s foot injury is set to keep him out until December. [Telegraph]

lenghan 28-10-2019 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by loveikan (Post 10024933)
BREAKING: Paul Pogba’s foot injury is set to keep him out until December. [Telegraph]

At times, we do not really know if this could be a blessing in disguise cos his absence could be seen as an absence of disruption within the team.
Cos whenever he is fit, his name is almost certainly be in the first ELEVEN regardless of his form as OGS seems fearful to omit non-performing players

Shadow7 28-10-2019 04:03 PM

Our devastating front 3 of MR, AM & DJ is quick and clinical in this match if they can keep up this form they will destroy the rest of the league’s defenses

lenghan 28-10-2019 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow7 (Post 10024941)
Our devastating front 3 of MR, AM & DJ is quick and clinical in this match if they can keep up this form they will destroy the rest of the league’s defenses

Although DJ should be careful in trying to earn penalties. Honestly I think he was fortunate not to be carded for the penalty claim (which VAR gave).

BBP604 28-10-2019 06:11 PM

OS needs to assess and cement the 1st team selection.
PP injury has given exposure and game time for the likes of Fred and AP. The former shows much improvement compared to earlier games.
With the current lean squad, must say we perform well.
Lets hope they can gel and improve further.

moscowblue 29-10-2019 10:22 AM

With the Carabao Cup against Chelsea coming up

Hope it is not one step forward, three steps back.

Chelsea improved alot after their 4-0 mauling by us.

Pulisic scored a fine hat trick, left foot, right foot, header.

We need to be more ruthless, and now who will be installed as the penalty taker after the misses?????

lenghan 29-10-2019 01:44 PM

The lads should remain focused and not get distracted by the media reports that we have found our solution to the front players. A match against a bottom club should, and never be used as a benchmark. OGS should still continue his push with the Board for Jan reinforcement rather then be led by false belief that we are ok.
We are far from being "okay" team to be in contention for top 4 position.

Still believe are players are far from being physically fit considering the frequency of hamstring n muscle injuries.

loveikan 29-10-2019 03:51 PM

We had a good game but against Norwich cannot be used as a benchmark.
With the current players, very challenging to be in the top 4.

All of us knew that certain positions needed new reinforcements and it is very hard to get the right player in Jan window.
Rumor about us signing Mandruzki in Jan is only a short term measure, buy it might be one that is necessary. We cannot afford to have one of our front 3 injured (even if Greenwood is available, ole seems not keen to put him in)

BBP604 29-10-2019 07:39 PM

Cant based on winning a bottom tier team to determine we are better.
Evidently we saw an improved united won the match. And not because we had an easier match.
And btw Norwich may be bottom tier but they have beaten Man City at 3-2.
No match is easy except we are better with selection or formation to play our best.
We need to look into reinforcement in the coming transfer window again.
A striker, an attacking midfielder, and left back.
Greenwood is like young MR who needs to build on mass and physique.

jwhtan 29-10-2019 09:41 PM

what's wrong with Luke Shaw at left back with Brandon Williams waiting as cover ?

BBP604 29-10-2019 10:07 PM

Luke Shaw was once considered one of the promising left back.
That was before he broke his leg.
Now he is often on casualty list.
I wonder can he still able to provide support in the long term.
As for Williams, not seen him play yet.
A good investment for rebuilding is seen good.

lenghan 29-10-2019 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BBP604 (Post 10024951)
Luke Shaw was once considered one of the promising left back.
That was before he broke his leg.
Now he is often on casualty list.
I wonder can he still able to provide support in the long term.
As for Williams, not seen him play yet.
A good investment for rebuilding is seen good.

LUKE SHAW

First-choice left-back Shaw has been out of action since the third game of the season after suffering a hamstring injury

He flew to Dubai last Tuesday to add some warm weather training to his rehabilitation.

lenghan 29-10-2019 11:56 PM

The issue I have with OGS is that whilst he is always preaching about giving the youngsters their game time, he had rarely done so, and only when injuries plagued the "older" players.
These youngsters need game time to improve, not when the chips are down and let them try to salvage the game. That is certainly asking way too much.
Just compare Frank Lampard at Chelsea. Had Sarri still been the coach, we would not have seen Abraham or Mount or Hudson Odoi having so much game time.
OGS should learn from Lampard to trust the youngsters and since we have been always saying the team is in a "rebuilding stage", why not?

BBP604 30-10-2019 02:20 AM

Lampard gambled his 1st match and lost badly against us 4nil.
He is lucky mount ,abraham and pulisic repaid him with great results at later matches.
Well not saying our new lads are no good but maybe he felt not ready to take up the responsibilty as yet.
I am hoping the transfer mkt to see good reinforcement for remaining season.

Shadow7 30-10-2019 10:52 AM

With Luke Shaw's injury records I think we really need a good cover as once you have a history of injuries you tend to have them coming back at you as your muscles and bones became brittle and won't withstand a whole season without going back to the treatment room again and again.
Then again we have Young and Williams deputising for him so left back is not a very urgent position to fill yet unlike the other positions which are really crying out for reinforcements.

jwhtan 30-10-2019 01:51 PM

If u keep thinking of buying players to fill this position, fill that position,
then in a way, u r preventing the younger players from stepping up.

U think Jadon Sancho could be the player he is now if he had stayed at City ?
Or even Kylian Mbappe if he hadn't got his breakthrough at Monaco ?

Either u give youth a chance or u buy ur way through to your trophies

Put it this way, at Man Utd, finishing second in the league, means we lose.
At other clubs, say Wolves, Aston Villa or even Everton, if they are in 7th place like we are now, the papers would be saying they did well.



Manage your expectations

moscowblue 30-10-2019 05:09 PM

If we want to get into 4th position, we need quality reinforcement

If we want to give the youth a chance, then we do not look at the final position of the team when season ends. Of course, we must not fall into the last 3!

If United needs changes, it is not the coach, but Woody must go, together with the owners. We have changed enough managers since 25 years of stability.

loveikan 31-10-2019 07:08 AM

MR scored two goals to help the team beats Chelsea 2-1 at Stamford Bridge.
Ole has proven to be Lampard's nemesis till date by ending the blue team's winning run

We must continue to build the momentum

moscowblue 31-10-2019 09:02 AM

The free kick was wonderful.

Again, like I said when James brings the ball into the box, it is better than for him to cross, as at the speed he is going, any contact by the defenders will usually result in a penalty.

Now back to the EPL

lenghan 31-10-2019 10:42 AM

If we continue to stay focused and not let our guards down, we can achieve better results. The 3 away wins within the week may be a great motivational factor, but hope the lads do not get too carried away.
All credit to MR for stepping up to take the penalty, and that free kick is really like a CR style. But towards the end, he seems to get a knock and lets hope it is not serious. But I thought OGS should get over the sarcasm about basketball. During the post match interview when questioned if MR was injured, again he said that this is football and players do get kicked unlike basketball

loveikan 31-10-2019 01:10 PM

MR goal for England helps him regains his confidence.

loveikan 31-10-2019 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by moscowblue (Post 10024982)
The free kick was wonderful.

Again, like I said when James brings the ball into the box, it is better than for him to cross, as at the speed he is going, any contact by the defenders will usually result in a penalty.

Now back to the EPL

Yes, a wonderful fk

Shadow7 31-10-2019 06:39 PM

Manchester United vs. Colchester In the next round

loveikan 31-10-2019 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow7 (Post 10024988)
Manchester United vs. Colchester In the next round

Hope we can have a gd run in all cup game, at the same time allowing some youngsters more game time. Impt to gain experiences.

moscowblue 01-11-2019 09:00 AM

Tomorrow early game.

Where is Shaw and PP, how come injured so long?

loveikan 01-11-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by moscowblue (Post 10024995)
Tomorrow early game.

Where is Shaw and PP, how come injured so long?

Read PP will be out till dec. Maybe a blessing in disguise if it turn out that the rest can step up their game in his absence then can consider selling him in due time if he is hell bent on leaving.

Not sure abt Shaw

lenghan 01-11-2019 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by loveikan (Post 10024996)
Read PP will be out till dec. Maybe a blessing in disguise if it turn out that the rest can step up their game in his absence then can consider selling him in due time if he is hell bent on leaving.

Not sure abt Shaw

Looks like Shaw has taken over the title of MC away from Jones.
Jose had once questioned him about his thresh-hold for pain cos of his frequent injuries (altho we can sympathise with him for the horrific broken leg he suffered in 2015 which probably he has not fully overcome, more psychological then physical otherwise he would have hung up his boots).
His current injury was caused during the match with Crystal Palace (hamstring) in August and was expected to be out for at least 5 weeks.
It is now into the 10th week (and counting) and still no sign of "recovery"

lenghan 01-11-2019 11:32 AM

Current Injury List
 
Pogba - since end of Sept with ankle injury and not due back till Dec
Shaw - since Aug with hamstring. Supposed to be out for 5 weeks but still not fully recovered altho OGS said he is back at training
Tuanzebe - injured his hip during warm up for the Liverpool game. No date given when he could return
Matic - honestly I don't care (haha)
Dalot - since 6th October vs Newcastle. No update on extend of injury
Bailly - since late April after match with Chelsea. Apparently serious knee injury that required surgery, End of the year is current target as no sign of him on training ground
Fosu-Mensah - long term knee injury whilst out on loan at Fulham but seen at training ground though no date set for his return

moscowblue 01-11-2019 03:16 PM

At least now at left back we can see a youngster BW, Young can retire leow

lenghan 01-11-2019 06:07 PM

Chong has yet to sign new contract and we will risk losing him by end of the year. Juventus closing in on him.
He is apparently frustrated on the lack of chances to play.


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