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KeeHuat 17-01-2020 04:15 AM

Manchester United have agreed a £1.28m (1.5m euros) fee with Inter Milan for defender Ashley Young.

It is understood the deal includes an add-on fee, which will be activated if Inter win Serie A this season.

loveikan 17-01-2020 08:23 AM

Young departure sealed

Manchester United have agreed to sale of club captain Ashley Young to Inter Milan for £1.28million (€1.5m).

The full-back is expected to complete a medical in the next few days before signing an 18-month contract.

Nerazzurri agreed personal terms with Young last week but have now ironed out any creases over the move with United, according to*Sky Sport Italia*journalist Fabrizio Romano.

Young's United contract was set to expire in June after nine years at Old Trafford

lenghan 17-01-2020 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loveikan (Post 10025725)
Young departure sealed

Manchester United have agreed to sale of club captain Ashley Young to Inter Milan for £1.28million (€1.5m).

The full-back is expected to complete a medical in the next few days before signing an 18-month contract.

Nerazzurri agreed personal terms with Young last week but have now ironed out any creases over the move with United, according to*Sky Sport Italia*journalist Fabrizio Romano.

Young's United contract was set to expire in June after nine years at Old Trafford

Other clubs buying our players always done in double quick time whereas when we buy we love to haggle and haggle and if lucky get our way otherwise we miss the boat

loveikan 17-01-2020 08:08 PM

painfully slow.

btw, heard Young actually forced his way out by refusing to train with the team hence OGS dropped for the games against Norwich and Wolves.
that was the reason why his transfer was so fast.

lenghan 17-01-2020 11:46 PM

Sporting has insisted that BF plays tonight against Benfica since we have not met their original price.
So if he gets injured, the deal will fall flat on our face again!!!!

loveikan 18-01-2020 08:36 AM

It's turning out to be a very busy evening as far as Manchester United are concerned.
On top of Young's exit, the club have also triggered their option to extend Eric Bailly's contract by a further two years.

The centre-back would otherwise have been a free agent at the end of the season.
Can Bailly*establish himself at Old Trafford, or are United simply protecting their asset?

lenghan 18-01-2020 07:33 PM

As long as we are not willing to pay the upfront price as demanded by Sporting, the deal will contd to be delayed since they know how desperate we are.
After the game, their coach was quoted as saying they will contd to play BF this Wed in their league (as if the transfer did not happen)
Yes, it is really painful to watch how we are trying (or not trying) to get our targeted player.
So.....the wait continues........

loveikan 18-01-2020 07:39 PM

Ending soon? better close the deal fast before the others come to disturb again.
and B.Fernandes to stay injury free after the game against Benfica

Manchester United have finally broken the deadlock in negotiations for Bruno Fernandes. They are now willing to meet Sporting Lisbon's minimum fixed fee of €60m. Clubs are now just €5m apart in add-ons [Record, Portugal].

lenghan 19-01-2020 01:58 AM

Manchester United are prepared to walk away from a deal for Bruno Fernandes unless Sporting Lisbon drop their demands, sources have told ESPN.

Sporting want €65 million up front and another €15m in add-ons for Fernandes, a stance that has baffled United because the Portuguese side were prepared to let the midfielder join Tottenham in the summer for around €45m plus add-ons.

KeeHuat 20-01-2020 12:39 AM

Manchester United XI: De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw, Fred, Matic, James, Pereira, Williams, Martial.

Subs: Romero, Bailly, Jones, Mata, Lingard, Dalot, Greenwood

lenghan 20-01-2020 01:51 AM

Poor defending corner and Liverpool 1-0 up
Still we see OGS sitting like dreaming whilst Klopp is very animated
Damn one sided game and when we get possession, it is left to right passing

Shadow7 20-01-2020 02:26 AM

DDG is really weak in collecting crosses :(

lenghan 20-01-2020 02:42 AM

First 5 mins Liverpool really trying to kill off the game. The number of attempts more then ours the entire first half.
Total they now have 11 corners compared to ours...ZERO

Liang_Zai 20-01-2020 02:49 AM

How the hell martial manage to miss that????:mad:

Shadow7 20-01-2020 02:53 AM

When will OGS take out AP

lenghan 20-01-2020 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow7 (Post 10025745)
When will OGS take out AP

That is why OGS is tactically very weak. But then, who do we really have????

lenghan 20-01-2020 03:07 AM

AP replaced by Mata and Williams replaced by Greenwood.
Personally I would have preferred James to be replaced cos this 2nd half he is very ineffective

lenghan 20-01-2020 03:26 AM

Clearly shows we are completely lacking in creative player(s) to open up opposition otherwise we could have given any team a fight to the end.
Today the better team won but left it late

KeeHuat 20-01-2020 03:54 AM

On to the next match. Some of our passing was poor. Just did not take the chances that we had.

The referee was really poor in the first half.

loveikan 20-01-2020 08:49 AM

James passings and crosses were really poor.

we had 2 or 3 good chances in the 1st half

loveikan 20-01-2020 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lenghan (Post 10025754)
Clearly shows we are completely lacking in creative player(s) to open up opposition otherwise we could have given any team a fight to the end.
Today the better team won but left it late

yes... dun kn when we can have a creative player playing his trade for us

loveikan 20-01-2020 09:58 AM

Jialat. MR out for 6 weeks. or is it fake news?

RASH LATEST

Marcus Rashford is out for at least SIX weeks!

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer claimed before Man Utd’s defeat to Liverpool that his star man would be sidelined for a few weeks with a back injury.

But the gaffer has now revealed Rashford suffered a stress fracture against Wolves.

And he needs six weeks to heal – PLUS time afterwards for rehab.

Solskjaer confirmed: “Rashford? It’s a stress fracture that happened against Wolves.

“Unlucky for Marcus he’ll be out for a while. He won’t be back until after the mid-season break.

“Six weeks to heal and then some rehab after.”

lenghan 20-01-2020 10:21 AM

That's the price for the club, or more precisely the Board.
When we had the chance to pursue Haatland, the Board felt we had enough strikers and allowed him to go on the cheap to Dortmund.
But honestly, do we???
Rashford is the only striker that can be relied upon. Martial can be brilliant, but only if he wants to (aka consistency) Greenwood ..still raw and needs more playing time. James who shone in early matches has now become pretty ordinary, other then his speed.
We are given the chance to chase Bruno but the Board feels we are being ripped off by Sporting (and why wouldn't they, knowing how desperate we are)
Fred still stands a chance...he is tenacious, but still a long way to go
AP....ahhh...forget about him
Pogba....a player that should be allowed to leave since he is not proud to put on the jersey.
SM.....should stay
Mata...gosh...over his prime. When he scored the winner the last match, OGS thinks he is rejuvenated (is he???)
Matic.....simply too slow and holds on far too long to inject any offensive play
DDG ..... WAS good before and we should not be dwelling in the past
Macguire .... decent but not truly commanding, Pretty meek as a captain on the field

The list goes on........

jwhtan 20-01-2020 11:54 AM

We are currently a top ten club, not good enough to challenge for even the top 4. The pundits had predicted 4-0 before the game.
The gap between us and the top teams are too wide. Losing this game wasn't unexpected.

Even Watford beat us 2-0.

yifen 20-01-2020 01:51 PM

One's lost is another one's gain. Hope Green wood can capitalise the opportunity during Rashford absence.

loveikan 20-01-2020 03:09 PM

need a DOF fast to get rid of Woody and put him on what he is good at.

As for the urgent need on getting a exp striker

lenghan 21-01-2020 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loveikan (Post 10025785)
need a DOF fast to get rid of Woody and put him on what he is good at.

As for the urgent need on getting a exp striker

So true!!!!
While it is the correct course of action not to fall into the demands from Sporting who have raised their asking price to almost twice as much since last transfer, but we also need to look at the state we are in now. Are we in a position to haggle???
Unfortunately, NO.
So I can fully understand the frustrations fans are getting from the Board.
So far it has all been talk and no positive actions (with their now famous quote...waiting for the right player!!!) This is a joke

jwhtan 21-01-2020 04:10 PM

It depends on whether u want to recruit like Monaco, Ajax, Dortmund or like ManCity, Chelsea, Real Madrid
There is no right or wrong. Building with youngsters probably takes a longer process. But whichever way you go, you will still make mistakes.
We bought Harry Maguire for 80M. If we didn't buy, we'll be damned. When we buy, he is not worth the money. So really .... what do u want ?

Barcelona paid like 140M for Coutinho and it didn't work out for them
or Ousmane Dembele for more than 100M and he is still in the reserves.
Can we afford to go down that route ? Maybe we can .... well

loveikan 22-01-2020 12:37 PM

Sporting lost again and this time to Braga.
And BF was like pulling back in this game to keep himself injury free . Sporting surely regretted it decision to play him.

sfk7 22-01-2020 02:36 PM

I see your point. However, from the surface, we seem to be paying top tier money for second tier players. They are names alright, but not the mentality.

And to make it worse, we are treated like carrots because beggars cant be choosers. So either we overpaid, stood our ground but lose an asset we desperately need, or just drag till just before window close but still pay the ransom.

Something is wrong but only change is the manager but it did not stem from him

Ole is fighting a lonely battle to keep an unified front

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwhtan (Post 10025792)
It depends on whether u want to recruit like Monaco, Ajax, Dortmund or like ManCity, Chelsea, Real Madrid
There is no right or wrong. Building with youngsters probably takes a longer process. But whichever way you go, you will still make mistakes.
We bought Harry Maguire for 80M. If we didn't buy, we'll be damned. When we buy, he is not worth the money. So really .... what do u want ?

Barcelona paid like 140M for Coutinho and it didn't work out for them
or Ousmane Dembele for more than 100M and he is still in the reserves.
Can we afford to go down that route ? Maybe we can .... well


lenghan 22-01-2020 03:01 PM

Ole is offering no assurances tha Rashford will return from a back injury before the end of the season and said only that the club will give the striker as much time as is necessary to recover.
Rashford has suffered a stress fracture in his back and predictions for his comeback have ranged from six weeks to three months. But asked directly at a news conference on Tuesday whether it was possible Rashford may not play again this season, Solskjaer did not rule it out.

This is the price for not replacing Lukaku and Sanchez.
Ole had kept repeating that we are waiting for the right player and the right price....but my opinion.....WAIT LONG LONG
Top players are shunning us more then we want them. And when we spot potentials, they are hijacked by others because we love to drag our feet and haggle.
For as long as the Glazers are keeping Woody, I am afraid we are going to be mid-table team.
At times we should also blame the medias for the way they make reports.
Take for example Fred's performance against Liverpool. Yes he did well, but the way the media reported, we have ready replacement for Pogba!!! (suggesting the club do not need to find replacement)

loveikan 22-01-2020 06:46 PM

thinks it is ok to remain coy over the return of MR.

But for the transfer, the blame should be entirely on Woody though one may argue that the players we wanted might not place their trust in OGS.

btw, will you pay 25mil for Cavani with his exp and proven scoring records having played in a few leagues?

jwhtan 22-01-2020 06:47 PM

i think the determining factor is that we got ripped-off one time too many during the early days of the Glazer tenure. Ed Woodward got his fingers burnt.

Look at what previous managers did .... we sold cheaply, even RVP and bought expensive flops ..... do we actually want to continue doing that ?
or do we stand our ground and say " hey we are willing to offer a decent price, but dun rip us off "
.... remember whatever we do will impact our summer transfer business ....

we stood our ground on Lukaku .... suffered a small loss and got the transfer done, when Inter were trying to low ball us .....
if it is us trying to sign Lukaku from Inter, what do u think they will quote ? I can assure you it'll be in excess of 100M ....
and that Erling Haaland .... how can we accept a buyout clause of 40M which will let the agent have full control of the player ?
If Haaland does well here, the agent will definitely tout him round Europe to rip off another pay day ..... do we want to be party to that ?

so actually, I fully support the way the club is standing its ground now
it may be painful to watch the team on the pitch now after the successful years of SAF ..... but i live through Tommy Docherty, Dave Sexton, Ron Atkinson .....
and those players like Graeme Hogg, Arnie Sidebottom, Ralph Milne ....
so i can tolerate some of our less than gifted players on the teamsheet currently .....

jwhtan 22-01-2020 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loveikan (Post 10025796)
thinks it is ok to remain coy over the return of MR.

But for the transfer, the blame should be entirely on Woody though one may argue that the players we wanted might not place their trust in OGS.

btw, will you pay 25mil for Cavani with his exp and proven scoring records having played in a few leagues?


just ask yourself this question ....
if Cavani is our player and he has 6 months to go before he becomes a free player (much like RVP), will anyone pay 25M to buy from us ?

loveikan 22-01-2020 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwhtan (Post 10025798)
just ask yourself this question ....
if Cavani is our player and he has 6 months to go before he becomes a free player (much like RVP), will anyone pay 25M to buy from us ?

definitely need to stop overpaying and so time to rein in this nonsense.
Whenever Man Utd shop for a player, the price is really ridiculous and this is one of the most challenging factors.

btw, for the record, AMadrid offered 8mil for Cavani but not sure what will be his wages.

lenghan 23-01-2020 05:59 AM

All the possession yet we trail 0-1 after Jones committed foul at half way. Free kick, headed assist and Woods scored....all sooooo simple. Defenders all dreaming since free kick was a the half way line

lenghan 23-01-2020 06:17 AM

11 attempts with 3 on target in 1st half
Our front guys simply not up to the task

Liang_Zai 23-01-2020 06:31 AM

Same old story is ole up to the task?? He seems to have no clue at all 2nil down

loveikan 23-01-2020 07:00 AM

walau losing by 0-2 on home ground.
did not watch the game but looking at the stats obviously the team out there cannot deliver the goal.

where is the fault? is it players? no creative player? mental block? mgr's strategy ?
haiz

KeeHuat 23-01-2020 07:07 AM

Missed chances in the first half, poor defending, not good enough performance and a 2-0 loss


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