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BlueC 18-11-2016 03:18 PM

Putting down to sleep
 
Hi,

Need some advise or opinion from pets lover.

My female cat called "baby" with us for many yrs.
Tumors was found on the underneath near stomach area last yr.
Went operation to remove it but less than 3 mths, new tumors appeared.
Went for removal again.
Less than 2 mths, new tumors appear on the stomach and worse still, one tumor appear inside the mouth (somewhere near where the food will go down)
I can sense she is suffering a lot of pain (Understand cat can hide their pain very well)

Initially, it still can eat and drink on its own.
Later stage she will eat wet food.
Then only will eat when hand fed. Water too.
Now totally stop eating and drinking.
Need force feeding now.

Although she still can move around, I thinking of putting her to sleep.
Have lots of fights with my wife over this.
She against putting her to sleep.

Any advise or opinion?
Thank you.

BlueC 18-11-2016 03:19 PM

Can see baby (black and white) in my profile picture.

streetsmart73 18-11-2016 03:25 PM

Bro, we can feel your pain.

Honest, putting the poor kitty down could be a blessing to it.

No more suffering & pain for the cat.

Kohaku 18-11-2016 03:38 PM

Sad to hear that. Is pain to put to sleep, specially for a lady as got some attachment to it. Very hard to decide. Dun quarrel over it.

How old is it? If more than 12yrs, is consider old and best to shorten its sufferings. If it still looks healthy, can eat, walk or normal activities, try keep 1-2yrs then decide again. Let ur wife see how much this cat is suffering and ask her if she bares to see it suffers.

My opinions is to put it to sleep as its best way. Final decision is yours.

BlueC 18-11-2016 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetsmart73 (Post 9976396)
Bro, we can feel your pain.

Honest, putting the poor kitty down could be a blessing to it.

No more suffering & pain for the cat.

Yes. Agreed.
But...but....
But she still conscious around her surrounding area.
still acknowledge you when u call her.

BlueC 18-11-2016 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kohaku (Post 9976398)
Sad to hear that. Is pain to put to sleep, specially for a lady as got some attachment to it. Very hard to decide. Dun quarrel over it.

How old is it? If more than 12yrs, is consider old and best to shorten its sufferings. If it still looks healthy, can eat, walk or normal activities, try keep 1-2yrs then decide again. Let ur wife see how much this cat is suffering and ask her if she bares to see it suffers.

My opinions is to put it to sleep as its best way. Final decision is yours.

Bought her when baby just few mths old.
She should be at least 8 to 9 yrs old today.

Yes...baby very close to my wife.
Both of them share the same pillow sleeping.

I believe baby will break down in a week or 2.
She is not eating leow, how much can I force feed her?

streetsmart73 18-11-2016 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueC (Post 9976399)
Yes. Agreed.
But...but....
But she still conscious around her surrounding area.
still acknowledge you when u call her.

Bro, we also have a kitty, Theo in Australia.

Theo was a little kitten abandoned, abused & traumatised by its previous caretaker.

The shelter found Theo in some dump. That was more than 13 years ago.

Now, theo is getting on with age. We can see it coming. Yes, the feeling sucks but seeing the poor kitty "wasting" off slowly is painful.

Yes, ultimately it's still your call bro. Pray about it.

ThomasLim 18-11-2016 04:09 PM

Bro, really sad to hear this... I will try to understand your wife feeling... if she is unwilling to let Baby leave like that, u dont force her... let her accompany Baby for her last few weeks, though it could be a painful one... if u force her to let Baby sleep, she might not understand you and might even blame you for the rest of your life....

Very sad.... be strong, your wife needs your support...

Aces 18-11-2016 04:16 PM

honestly speaking i'm very sad when my hamster rip.
I think if it stop eating better to put to sleep... if not will be harder to see her condition worsen day by day...

Royston 18-11-2016 04:32 PM

Feel your pain now my fish like cardinal also ko 1 by 1 due to old age everyday take dead body( have around 30+ pieces from 100) with me for so many years. Go work also no mood.

tweety bird 18-11-2016 04:50 PM

Why don't let it hang around till time to go or wait till yr wife suggest it?
Do go for a family photo session.

streetsmart73 18-11-2016 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royston (Post 9976410)
Feel your pain now my fish like cardinal also ko 1 by 1 due to old age everyday take dead body( have around 30+ pieces from 100) with me for so many years. Go work also no mood.

Yes bro, our attachment & affection for our beloved pets :p

Money can't buy

BlueC 18-11-2016 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasLim (Post 9976404)
Bro, really sad to hear this... I will try to understand your wife feeling... if she is unwilling to let Baby leave like that, u dont force her... let her accompany Baby for her last few weeks, though it could be a painful one... if u force her to let Baby sleep, she might not understand you and might even blame you for the rest of your life....

Very sad.... be strong, your wife needs your support...

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweety bird (Post 9976411)
Why don't let it hang around till time to go or wait till yr wife suggest it?
Do go for a family photo session.

Thinking of doing it tomorrow.
Wife said she will not follow me go.
And after that ask me go buried it myself.

Yes....will postpone the trip.
See later how it develop.

tweety bird 18-11-2016 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueC (Post 9976418)
Thinking of doing it tomorrow.
Wife said she will not follow me go.
And after that ask me go buried it myself.

Yes....will postpone the trip.
See later how it develop.

I know someone place the pet's urn at hm. It is beautifully decorated with happy pictures or the pet's toy.

tangmulong4488 18-11-2016 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueC (Post 9976418)
Thinking of doing it tomorrow.
Wife said she will not follow me go.
And after that ask me go buried it myself.

Yes....will postpone the trip.
See later how it develop.

U tell her she should be with her cat till the end... If not she will regret.

BlueC 18-11-2016 07:25 PM

I will not witness the "Putting down to sleep" process.

Maybe inside car, her meow meow will stop the trip.
She is very vocal when travelling in the car.

llewellyn 18-11-2016 07:58 PM

Ever thought of seeing another vet?
Pet can undergo chemo too but subject to its current condition.
The aim is not to cure the cancer but to manage their pain and suffering until they pass on...

globalcookie 18-11-2016 08:10 PM

It's painful watching them suffer indeed. Just a little thought... would you think your kitty wants to be put down? I don't know about how they would think, but just wonder, if they rather suffer but be with the family till her last, or rather be put down due to the sufferings it is going through.

Animals can't communicate w humans on their wishes.... so it's just a guess game.

Liang_Zai 18-11-2016 09:31 PM

My rabbit of 9years got a tumor on the right arm and I send it for removal.After that the tumor grow back but the vet say only option is to amputate which I am against it. in order to prolong its life I have to wash the wound and bring it for injection everyday till 1fine day it could no longer stand on its own and shiver there then I send it to the vet to put it to sleep.:( Bro if it can still walk around maybe you can reconsider?

BlueC 18-11-2016 09:42 PM

http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/u...111_215215.jpg

That was only few months ago............

BlueC 18-11-2016 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llewellyn (Post 9976423)
Ever thought of seeing another vet?
Pet can undergo chemo too but subject to its current condition.
The aim is not to cure the cancer but to manage their pain and suffering until they pass on...

My Vet only recommends Herbal Medicine.
Coz normal medicine too strong....it will eventually destory their weak kidney.

I bought online C-care at US....Send via FEdx.

BlueC 18-11-2016 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by globalcookie (Post 9976425)
It's painful watching them suffer indeed. Just a little thought... would you think your kitty wants to be put down? I don't know about how they would think, but just wonder, if they rather suffer but be with the family till her last, or rather be put down due to the sufferings it is going through.

Animals can't communicate w humans on their wishes.... so it's just a guess game.

yeah...wish i can communicate with her.
One thing never change...she still enjoy going out.

ThomasLim 18-11-2016 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueC (Post 9976435)
yeah...wish i can communicate with her.
One thing never change...she still enjoy going out.

If that is the case, I will not suggest u to put her to sleep... she still enjoying, why let her sleep... :o

globalcookie 19-11-2016 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueC (Post 9976435)
One thing never change...she still enjoy going out.

if she can tell you her decision she probably still wants to live tho suffering. Maybe u wanna give her time till u feels her suffering is too much.

coryfav 19-11-2016 08:37 AM

For the sake of your wife, you've to give her time to accept/agree that the cat is suffering and that there may be a better way to let her go (or stay). Get your wife involved, that's to give both of them more time, or both of you may regret in your different ways later.

BlueC 19-11-2016 11:16 AM

About 2 yrs ago, I got another male cat popeye past away due to kidney failure.
I was with him from young strong 4kg male cat to a very sick of less than 1.5kg during its last days....
Forced feeding and helping him to urine for few weeks.
My wife witness the last moment of popeye. She told me during his last few breath, he managed to lift one of his paw to my wife hand to let her hold.
Struggle for few moment and gone.
It is so heart breaking during that period.

Baby case seem so familiar now. It look like it will be a repeat soon.
Maybe i am selfish now. Try to end her life so that i will suffer less.:confused:

streetsmart73 19-11-2016 02:52 PM

Bro, you are not alone.

We are always in the dilemma when we witness first hand our pets going downhill.

Chin up Bro. Whatever your decision would be it would be best for the ailing kitty.

SabaDen92 19-11-2016 09:51 PM

Bro BlueC, sad to hear that ... seems like yesterday we were talking about cats, remember? If she still can move about, leave her be ... pray and really hope she gets well soon ...

joonpeng_lee 20-11-2016 12:07 AM

Bro BlueC, I am kinda going through this now as well..
my boy had been with me for 9 years... but health is going down since last year...
for the last 2 week, his hind legs are unable to work.. pass motion and pee is a problem for all.. :(
as I told my wife.. he cant tell me what he wants.. and I do not have the heart to make the decision for him as well..:(

Aro77 20-11-2016 01:51 AM

i feel you bro

our dog which was with our family since i was a small boy ( she was 14 years old when she passed away ) also came down with cancer and had a huge 1.5kg lump on her shoulder and she went for opp and managed to remove it , after the opp she came home and was very weak and could not go toilet properly also. i had to syringe feed her everyday along with her medicines. we would give her anything that she wanted to eat and boy she loved home food , as it was her ending days already we just gave her anything she wanted.. i believe new lumps were coming and doctors could not do much as her kidneys were failing also , so meds was not an option any more. few weeks later there was prayers at my place and she passed away peacefully without pain during the prayers. was a very sad occasion :( we are lucky that she passed away peacefully. RIP my old friend.

Aro77 20-11-2016 02:01 AM

one doctor at the clinic did recommend us to put her down but we were very upset with that recommendation. she was in pain but not alot as with pain killers... and in fact you would see her slowly making her way to sit near the dinner table every night. she enjoyed the last few weeks and we did also. we were mentally prepared that the day was near as her organs were failing already and the last weeks were very memorable.

am a strong believer in god and believe he will take his creation back home when the time is right.



Stay strong bro and enjoy the time u have left with her.

BlueC 20-11-2016 12:15 PM

Thanks for all the advise.

Got a friend also a cat lover.
She told me she is very selfish. She would like her cats to be with her as long as possible. Putting down is not an option.

Yes...doing what Aro77 is doing now.... try to let her do what she like.
Going out and explore the world beyong my house gate (with supervision).

Joonpeng_lee.....stay strong

SabaDen92......since she still can move around, will let her be.
Yesterday there is a minor happiness, she lick on her own when given cat treat.
Still hope is not high....hoping for miracle.

coryfav 20-11-2016 12:34 PM

Let her leave at her own time, since you've observed her trying to be with the family.

I'd a 14-year-old budgie who'd always been the high-and-mighty, touch-me-not, badly-spoiled character, boss of the house.

Her health dropped drastically one day, and I started covering her cage from the draft when I saw she's getting weaker. Towards her last moment, she got down to the bottom of the cage where I'd left a gap to observe her, and sat very closely to me for quite a while before she left.

Still treasure that moment today, few years already.

BubbleBubble 20-11-2016 04:19 PM

Putting down to sleep
 
Based on the condition of the cat u described... she's going to go. When u force feed her did u see poop? What's its colour? Same as when u push it in? If so... dun force feed her Liao. She'll still drink when u put water near where she can reach. After a week of non feeding the cat will be ready to go.

No need to fight over it. It's a natural process. What u need to do is get ready for her eventual departure. There r those funeral service providers... they can keep the memory of ur cat for 2-3 years for a small fee... thereafter people usually get them to splash ash to sea... time when they are finally ready to let go.

globalcookie 20-11-2016 05:13 PM

I guess not many pet owners bought insurance for their pets, such that when the pet is sick, medical fee can also affect if they get their pets treated or put down.

A quick search online for Pet Insurance... just a couple among other insurers..

https://www.libertyinsurance.com.sg/petcare/
http://www.aonhappytails.com/

Aro77 20-11-2016 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by globalcookie (Post 9976561)
I guess not many pet owners bought insurance for their pets, such that when the pet is sick, medical fee can also affect if they get their pets treated or put down.

A quick search online for Pet Insurance... just a couple among other insurers..

https://www.libertyinsurance.com.sg/petcare/
http://www.aonhappytails.com/

yes pet insurance is good to buy esp for our 4 legged friends :)

llewellyn 20-11-2016 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueC (Post 9976543)
Thanks for all the advise.
Yesterday there is a minor happiness, she lick on her own when given cat treat.
Still hope is not high....hoping for miracle.

At this stage, just hope she can be as painless as possible before she pass on. ...
One of my dog also passed away recently due liver cancer.

Your cat is fortunate to have a good owner like you and your wife.

foxwagon 20-11-2016 09:32 PM

Sorry to hear about your pet bro BlueC.
Hope everything is fine in Batam
Recently got civil unrest in Jarkata against ethnic Chinese

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BlueC 21-11-2016 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BubbleBubble (Post 9976555)
Based on the condition of the cat u described... she's going to go. When u force feed her did u see poop? What's its colour? Same as when u push it in? If so... dun force feed her Liao. She'll still drink when u put water near where she can reach. After a week of non feeding the cat will be ready to go.

She need to force feed with food and water now.
Need to put her inside cat litter then she do her stuff (No more auto mode)
Few days back, a single 8cm long poop. Look good to me.
But after that no more poop (maybe lack of food).
Urinate 1x or 2x per day.

No lah, as long she still inside the house. Will try our best.
Stock up quite a lot of cat recovery can food, cat treats, baby food for around 1 yr and baby milk liao.

The main reason I thinking of putting her to sleep is to reduce her suffering and pain.
Imagine a swollen tumour grown inside the mouth (near left side of throat).
Every swallow of food and drink is a painful process. :(

BlueC 21-11-2016 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxwagon (Post 9976583)
Sorry to hear about your pet bro BlueC.
Hope everything is fine in Batam
Recently got civil unrest in Jarkata against ethnic Chinese

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I am find. Thank You.

Not actually true lah.
All political driven unrest.


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